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ProtonMail messaging app

Hi, ProtonMail is a great service. Have you considered a messaging app too? ie an alternative to Whatsapp, Viber, Messenger etc which, like ProtonMail, respects an individual's privacy and has no connecting to the likes of Google and Facebook.

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      • Anonymous commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

        No.

        The last thing we need is another messaging app crowding the field. People should be adopting other alternatives like Signal, or other Signal Protocol clients. Getting users off of FB Messenger, SMS, iMessage is hard enough - let alone a dozen competing standards

      • Kevin T. commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

        Let ProtonMail do what it was designed for...email. There are plenty of secure messaging apps out there already. Give Signal a try.

      • JC commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

        would be interesting to see PMs take on this ... While I like the levels of security that Signal offers it's got a couple of limitations which bug me. Because I don't *need* that level of security for my family IM needs I use Telegram as my primary messaging client but it would be nice to have something that integrates with PM (single client install on mobile?) and offers Signal level of security/integrity with some of the user friendly Telegram features

      • Corey commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

        I agree with using XMPP+OMEMO, Conversations.im already works well, it would be good to have a server with ProtonMail's security.

      • Anonymous commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

        The only thing I could see them adding is something like a secure XMPP webclient since they seem to be interested in using open standards. And given that OMEMO is one of the major selling points for using XMPP for IM they could definitely do something especially if they also allow access over their onion site. But building a new app with a new scheme seems redundant given the existance of Signal & Wire.

      • Cubit commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

        I personally use Threema for secure IM, but I think a ProtonChat feature integrated into the web interface would make sense. It would be very handy to be able to chat with your proton contacts without having to write emails.

      • Bloodletter commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

        I use signal and love it, the only improvements I would have would be similar for messenging functionality for Protonmail:

        - Cross platform support rather than having it tied to a phone number.
        - Turning off emoji (damn, those things annoy me)

      • LUH3417 commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

        Threema is the finest in Secure & Private Messaging. It does not require a phone number for identification. It uses a randomly generated ID to be given to other contacts. Wire looks good too, but does not yet have the feature set that Threema offers.

        Protonmail does not need to reinvent a great product Threema has already created. Signal is also great if you are comfortable sharing your phone number.

      • Dave commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

        One more option, for Android at least (and open source, available from f-droid), is Silence. I have been using it happily for months, and have convinced contacts to switch. :-D

      • Ayush commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

        "Telegram' might be an option too, they take privacy and security seriously

      • Gawd commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

        @Happy,

        Just use Signal for gawdsake! I don't trust Protonmail that much; they can't even fix up their existing bugs in a timely manner.

      • Happy commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

        The reason I want protonchat, is because i trust PM enough that i desire a suite of secure proton-services. And that includes a secure chat/messaging-service.

      • R commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

        This is not necessary. There are already great messaging apps out there, with no connections "to the likes of Google and Facebook", which are also free and excel in terms of privacy features.

      • Mad As commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

        I wish this service had a vote DOWN button.

        There are sufficient alternatives out in the wilds of the internet to deliver this requirement.

        All this does is distract the Proton Dev people and push precious resources onto frivolous projects when they should be focusing on their core service that we have already paid for, being EMAIL ...that is still deficient in so many areas.

        Grrr

      • Angus SF commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

        I'm with the many who recommend Signal, and we use it throughout our family.

        WhatsApp may use Signal's protocol, but the servers at WhatsApp store your decryption key. This means your messages can be decrypted by coding errors, by crooked employees when curious or when payed off, or when the company forced to do so by the authorities.

        If you are truly concerned about keeping your SMS messages private, I wouldn't recommend WhatsApp.

      • Luís Bragança commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

        It would be a great idea IF you had someone there to talk to.
        There already are several secure+encrypted+fully-open-source chat programs, but it's hard to convince your family and friends to use it, so it would be a bit waste of resources to build that app.

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