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ProtonMail messaging app

Hi, ProtonMail is a great service. Have you considered a messaging app too? ie an alternative to Whatsapp, Viber, Messenger etc which, like ProtonMail, respects an individual's privacy and has no connecting to the likes of Google and Facebook.

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      • Happy commented  · 

        The reason I want protonchat, is because i trust PM enough that i desire a suite of secure proton-services. And that includes a secure chat/messaging-service.

      • R commented  · 

        This is not necessary. There are already great messaging apps out there, with no connections "to the likes of Google and Facebook", which are also free and excel in terms of privacy features.

      • Mad As commented  · 

        I wish this service had a vote DOWN button.

        There are sufficient alternatives out in the wilds of the internet to deliver this requirement.

        All this does is distract the Proton Dev people and push precious resources onto frivolous projects when they should be focusing on their core service that we have already paid for, being EMAIL ...that is still deficient in so many areas.

        Grrr

      • Angus SF commented  · 

        I'm with the many who recommend Signal, and we use it throughout our family.

        WhatsApp may use Signal's protocol, but the servers at WhatsApp store your decryption key. This means your messages can be decrypted by coding errors, by crooked employees when curious or when payed off, or when the company forced to do so by the authorities.

        If you are truly concerned about keeping your SMS messages private, I wouldn't recommend WhatsApp.

      • Luís Bragança commented  · 

        It would be a great idea IF you had someone there to talk to.
        There already are several secure+encrypted+fully-open-source chat programs, but it's hard to convince your family and friends to use it, so it would be a bit waste of resources to build that app.

      • Tohoo Vavohoo commented  · 

        Agreed, no need to start a new project. This already exists. There are lots of things that don't exist, no need to spend time on the things that do exist.

      • Are Lomsdalen commented  · 

        I would gladly pay extra for this feature. (Even though I am happy with ThreeMa)
        (And I paid for a VPN service ($7/month), before you gave us ProtonVPN)
        Paying $30 per month, is ,in my opinion, a steal for all the services you provide.

      • John commented  · 

        It would be better to use the gold standard for security. SIGNAL. It's available for all platforms and is open source.

      • Anonymous commented  · 
      • HHH commented  · 

        Wire is the way to go. Don't ever put your secure eggs in one basket.

      • Anonymous commented  · 

        i hate it when people request things that already exist. for proton drive use mega.nz or pcloud or trezorit. for proton messaging use signal or wire. for password management use dashlane or bitwarden for web browseing use firefox or tor / brave any other protony ideas? they exist

      • Anonymous commented  · 

        There's already Wire, which doesn't require your phone number and has open source clients.

      • openInvent commented  · 

        I own vibro-chat.com and vibrochat.club and want to implement a vibrational feedback *poke and custom parse text to cause a usb battery (usb cable soldered to AAA to AA battery adapter with resistor) to activate

      • Trevor commented  · 

        I already can't get my contacts to use anything other than plain SMS. Another messaging option is not going to change that.

      • Opara victor commented  · 

        There are so many messaging app already, we should focus on emails and how to improve it with personalized tools.

      • Cam commented  · 

        There are so many messaging apps I don't think this would be very popular if Proton Messanger was a thing unlike secure email which ProtonMail is one of the few options out there.

        If you want a good secure messaging app that is based on phone numbers use Signal. Its free, open source, and has all most of the features WhatsApp offers and a few more extra features like self destructing messages.

        If you want a good secure messaging app that is based on accounts (Not email or phone number) use Wire. It Swiss made and is a lot like WhatsApp with messaging and video call. You can think of it as a secure version of Skype. To sign up you do need to give them a email or phone number but the other users you chat with will not see your email or phone number and they will only see your username and name but adding your name is optional. I recommend signing up on your desktop and not on mobile and sign up with your email so that way if you forget your password you can easily reset your password via email.

        And there are so many other ones out there I can list but I have used many of them and these two I mentioned is what I used.

      • Anonymous commented  · 

        That's not a good idea, there are already many messaging apps encrypted end-to-end

      • Anonymous commented  · 

        Feature creep. Let's focus on EMAIL.

      • Anonymous commented  · 

        Also think that some cooperation with Signal developers would be good. Considering similar philosophy about privacy, promoting each other and maybe giving each other some good ideas how to make their services even more secure and private could be beneficial.

        However Proton team should focus on task at hand for now rather than start developing their own messaging app. Proton messaging app or Proton drive is good idea to keep in mind for the future but it's better to add new features slowly than make soI'mme bugs affecting security.

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