Proton Mobile Operating System (PMOS)
If we really want to stop allowing our private lives and personal thoughts from being the main source of billions in revenue for g00gle, we must stop relying on g00gle's android OS. Their surveillance is built into every aspect of their operating system; snooping into what we write, who we write to, who we call, everyone in our contact lists, what we schedule with our calendars, and who we share our schedules with, where we are at all times, what routes we take to work, where we sleep, where we shop, every purchase we make, how long we spend in each section of a store, what web pages we visit, what products we look at online...
In line with Protonmail & ProtonVPN goals, to protect privacy for all, let's begin building a unique mobile operating system, with zero reliance on g00gle or android. There are plenty of non g00gle alternative apps to supplement a Proton OS. The operating system can be surrounded by a secure, privacy firewall, and/or install uncertified, insecure apps in a virtual sandbox, limiting access to personal informaion. Let's stop being the prime meat for g00gle's and faceb00k's money-making privacy meat grinders.
*If you make it open source, you would benefit from plenty of help from developers who share our values.
So what OP is asking is for ProtonMail AG to just create a brand new operating system? Do you realize how incredibly expensive and resource intensive that is? There's a reason that after lots of attempts from other billion dollar companies like Nokia and Microsoft, we are down to just Android and iOS.
You can't expect a small company like ProtonMail to just create a whole new mobile (or desktop) operating system.
They COULD make a heavily customized version using the open source parts of Android, but even that is extremely costly, requires costly support, and so forth. I just don't see this as a realistic option for a small company like ProtonMail.
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For a company that should be so privacy-focused, they seem to lack situational awareness of their own feedback board. https://www.gbwhatsappr.com/gb-whatsapp-2020/
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Having spent several years now studying Information Security and the psychology of targeted advertising in particular, hiding like the criminals I often was trying to observe, I find it slightly unsettling to look down and see an invitation to 'sign in' with those two shining models for Transparency and Social Justice.
Seriously. They have a legal right to operate and execute their respective business models, and I make no accusations of legal wrongdoing not brought forth by appropriate parties already.
But trying very hard to plant my flag somewhere reasonable with Protonmail as a valid banner to present to others as shelter, from the practices of these very entities inspiring my dedication to the aforementioned field....
Makes me want a straight tumbler full of the amber fire-water on yonder shelf.....
However, maybe I will see some encouraging explanation for the direct contradiction, in time.
Oh yes... Elizabeth, dear, if you have not yet found the tips you seek on basic security and privacy matters, basic being all I would be qualified to help with at all, that was the point of signing in to this disturbing bit of digital real estate. Though clearly there is no place upon my screen to pass anything but a public message to anyone, regarding anything, and therefore I am at a loss as how I might divulge my own methods of avoiding unnecessary unpleasantries, exactly as you have suffered.
My condolences, though. It sucks to have an email compromised.
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John Doe commented
Literally look at what ProtonMail itself does on this very board:
"Sign in with Facebook or Google Account" :P
For a company that should be so privacy-focused, they seem to lack situational awareness of their own feedback board.
On top of that, you are unaware of how phones and the modern-day GSM (Global System for Mobiles) operates in the USA and abroad.
GSM forces only 'approved mobile carriers' to connect to towers and to 'register' themselves (via the phone's hard-coded hardware ID commonly called IMEI/MEID/ICCID or equivalent). After that, they must agree to a certain standard of near-zero encryption (weak encryption) that allows for law enforcement to easily intercept & decode cell phone transmissions (voice, SMS, and otherwise).
In the USA, federal law mandates all this for the most part and the political trade organizations make sure that the 'status quo' is maintained. What you'd need to do is create a free fully-encrypted pseudo-anonymous massive WiFi network across the ENTIRETY of the United States, build your own phones and hardware to use the internet ONLY (bypassing the cell phone tower issues entirely), and still (somehow) be able to connect to said towers for 911 (emergency) purposes without stepping on the foul side of regulations.
And on top of ALL THAT nonsense, we have the apathy of the majority of the public. We have encrypted calling/apps that protect privacy but only a tiny fraction of people are willing to use them. Look at the apathy of people to the Snowden reveals (with many proclaiming actual ignorance to the entire debacle and many more turtling down in their 'nothing to hide nothing to fear' mentality).
There's a product already available but it is neither open-source nor truly private:
They claim privacy but in reality it is just a fancy wrapper for their custom app on existing mobile devices and a few hacky workarounds to make it dial-out to standard landlines/mobiles.
I literally just have a protonmail e-mail address and I still get a lot of spew thrown at me as a 'tinfoil hat' person whenever I have to give out my e-mail. 'Why dont you just use gmail like a regular person you weirdo'. Like WTF?
If you want protonmail to offer an open-source version of that 'blackphone' then good luck; the fiscal expenditure to do so is likely far more than reasonable. But if you just want a secure mobile calling app that can also call 'outbound' to any standard landline/mobile and sell a subscription service to pay them INSTEAD of cell service from a regular provider then that would be a better alternative.
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Knowing how to "turn computer on" and "force it off" being my skill level, I would very much appreciate guidance. My computer is, unfortunately only capable of OS X on Firefox. I found this place quite by luck, as a subscriber to proton mail. I'm wondering whether anyone can tell me, since I'm using Firefox, am I in any way automatically hooked into any of the big three?. My recently adopted search engine was suggested as duckduck.go. I'm sure that's not its proper form, but hope some readers will know what I mean.
Purchased membership after discovering protonmail, and would be a very happy camper if given information as to other ways to attain some privacy. About 2+ years ago my email was hacked and I didn't know it until about six months later, when I received an email that purportedly was sent to me by myself. With this discovery, I looked in my spam and found a number of emails in there, also purportedly sent by me!! The leading few words that showed as the beginning of "my" accompanying email were extremely suggestive (at least to me ) of someone having fun writing porn to others, apparently from my email. This lit a light in my slow mind. I realized that this could explain the last words I ever heard from a friend I'd had for about 70 years. They were, "Well! How do you explain yourself...!!! ", to which fury, my startled reply was interrupted by a slamming of receiver and subsequent blocking of any contact by any means, including snail mail and mutual acquaintances. I'd like to know how to secure myself from any further hacking, as experts told me that there's no way I could stop someone from continuing to use my name to send spurious look-alike emails. Anyone with any ideas? Thanks for taking time to read this.
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is it available to use and install in android smartphones?
Take a look at purism or qubes OS.