Proton Chat - Messaging app
Let's make it in some math style:
ProtonMail : Gmail = ProtonChat : Hangouts
:)
Secure private chat same principle of secure email, but applied to chats.
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FHT commented
Wouldn't Telegram's secret chats (https://telegram.org/faq#q-how-are-secret-chats-different) cover all the needs mentioned here? Is there a preference to keep chat and email and contacts all tightly integrated under a single trust-umbrella?
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Anonymous commented
Be very careful with this. It could make or break ProtonMail.
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Herrn Wind commented
I want to apologize ahead for the lengthy comment.
Protonmail team, you will want to keep this feature VERY, VERY SIMPLE and abandon any ideas of making the chat social like Google Hangouts or Facebook Messenger. I recommend OTR and a new handshake every session for PFS.
"Social" media is the scourge of privacy. A person wanting to keep something private between them and another person wouldn't tell their business to the most talkative person in their group. At the most, they would just invite a select few to their group. A chat feature is no different. The Rule of Thirds applies to chats: with more than 3 persons, most individuals lose focus, the subject matter branches off into different tangents, some walk away from the chat and return later, some want to dominate the chat, people that walked away ask "What did I miss?" and someone has to summarize to them, etc... It becomes a mess! Email would better serve that group.
If the following does not complicate the code, chats should have a default self-destruct setting, or the feature should only show x number of lines of the chat and anything beyond that is automatically wiped as the chat progresses (the latter maybe not so much as some people are not very economical with words).
Why self-destruct? There should be absolutely no reason a chat should be saved when an email can serve that purpose.
Things to consider when creating a chat feature:
* No Social Media
* OTR & PFS
* Self-destruct Default
* Rule of Thirds
* Simplicity
* Should do what cannot be answered with "There's email for that." i.e. A chat feature should do what email cannot: instant, real-time, etc... -
Michele Bissacco commented
Please. Albeit I love this kind of idea... PLEASE, not another new protocol.
If you'd really like to make a IM client, contact somebody else with an already successful and open application (like Telegram or Textsecure) and join your efforts -
Manu commented
OTR is insufficient. OTR3 describes method for multiple clients, but it's not been done.
Axolotl seems to be better positioned at this point.I am almost always switching between devices; phone, tablet, laptop, pc, work pc. OTR is unusable when switching between devices, since chat sessions are exclusive to the device you are currently using. History is lost across devices, and you can't just switch (like stand up from your PC, pick your phone, and leave the house).
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Sean commented
OTR/End-to-End.
I second this.
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AP commented
I agree with the aforementioned, that some end-to-end encrypted chat (in a mini-window) be available for Pm-to-PM users.
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Dan Mihai Ile commented
Forget the social, just a simple chat mini-window like gmail had before hangouts. Just something so I can talk to my friends while I am in the email page would be really nice. Keep it simple, it is much better than all crazy social sharing and I don't know what stuff...
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Anonymous commented
Create a Facebook alternative without advertising.
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Brandon commented
forget social crap, but the chat idea, if encrypted, is phenomenal, I and my friends have been looking for this and no one else offers it.
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Brandon commented
Instant messaging for proton mail users within the proton mail network that is encrypted by default.
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JohnnyB commented
Hello,
I think people want a powerfull mail plateform not social network capabilities
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N/A commented
Integrated, unencrypted, web-element/chatbox that can talk to Google Hangouts users.
+ future plans for encrypted chat between ProtonMail users. -
AdminProton (Community Team, Proton) commented
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