Let's make it in some math style:
ProtonMail : Gmail = ProtonChat : Hangouts
Secure private chat same principle of secure email, but applied to chats.
Andrei Dumitrescu commented
Dont miss the milestone. The only reason I cant get my friends from Gmail to Proton is because Hangouts is so easy and convenient. Convenience trumps security (unless your wife finds out about your other family)
I'm waiting for this ProtonChat (secure & encrypted) from a long time ago. It would encourage my contacts to start using ProtonMail and its services. This ProtonChat is a must-have feature, IMHO.
> Please make it interoperable with Signal Private Messenger, at launch.
That's never going to happen because Signal is a centralized service (not federated) and they do not allow third parties to use their server. Additionally it's bound to a phone number.
If anything was to be chosen it would be Matrix, as it's been audited by NCC and DINSIC. It would be great to be interoperable with librem phones, you know as e-mail is.
I think XMPP is a bit too fragmented (too many XEPs and too many clients that support a different variety).
Proton also does not have a "device" so it does make sense. I'm glad they didn't do a Tutanota when it came to encryption. Tutanota really should have tried to ratify their standard with the IETF before making a 'home made' substitute to PGP.
Its 2019 half way across.
Hey, when you start build this messenger?
Full secure .less buttons .Start --stop .
When you start build ProtonChat.
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In my opinion, ProtonChat should automatically delete messages that are older than two days, unless a user will save them in special folder, for example as "to do", "reminder", etc. This would allow to save space on servers and of course to improve security. For users usually there is no need to come back do messages that we send on daily basis.
Is any Hangouts available in protonmail?
I need a Secure private chat.
How can i get that?
[Deleted User] commented
We need a support that just answer (would be nice), take action and make things happen.
No access to an email account for more than a week is just intolerable!!!!!
Please make it interoperable with Signal Private Messenger, at launch.
Patrick Farrell commented
Hangouts is a way on Gmail to send instant messages to each other or instant emails
if you will. Both people have to be in their Gmail at the same time to send and receive
the messages. If some one sends you a message using hangouts and your not in your
Gmail the message will still arrive but it will be in your hangouts dialog box. You can
send instant videos and pictures in hangouts also.
We need protonchat now please.
The Outlandish Author commented
What are hangouts? I don't have Gmail
Instead of making another chat app... You could dedicate some resources to improving Signal, which I think share a lot of your driving values.
P.S. If you still plan on making a chat app/service I put forth a name: Gluon.
I agree that reinventing "secure and private chat" like everyone else is a very very bad thing to do.
Matrix is already shaping up to be absolutely wonderful -- it's feature-rich, its security and privacy is legitimate, it's open-source, and it's built around bridging to other chat networks, both open and closed.
A ProtonMail Matrix homeserver, with every ProtonMail user having an account, maybe even with a Matrix client built into ProtonMail, may be sensible, but even allocating those resources instead of just _using Matrix_ seems hard to justify.
Chat is an extremely saturated space, and I can't imagine any reason to implement yet-another insulated chat system.
If ProtonChat were to be a Proton owned and operated matrix (https://matrix.org) server, though, there'd be a solid foundation for chat with strong privacy (like e2e encrypted rooms), and it'd mean Proton is helping an open-source effort while helping itself.
That, and matrix also provides the potential to take chat right up to audio/video calls and a Google Hangouts type featureset.
Don't reinvent the wheel... Just provide an XMPP based service with OMEMO.
Oh god yes please!!