I do not want an "extra password." I was a single unique password for Proton Pass.

Proton has been doing a great job with Pass, but I have my Proton login info on my password manager. I can't access the login info to sign in if I have to sign in to get the login info. I would appreciate the ability login with just the "extra password" and not have to login first.

This is the only thing holding me back from switch over from Bitwarden and I can't understand how such a critical feature wasn't there from the get go.

(Off topic, but it's very annoying that I had to sign up to User Voice for this...)

This is a very important feature for me. I would want to only memorize a very secure password for Proton Pass and have all the other service's passwords in Proton Pass, including the one for other Proton services like Proton Mail, as any other standard password manager out there. Doing it this way would also allow me to use the integrated TOTP authenticator of Proton Pass for my Proton Mail, instead of using a third-party authenticator _only_ for my Proton Account (having all other TOTP accounts codes in Proton Pass). Right now, I have to use two passwords managers, one _only_ for accessing my Proton Account (and in turn Proton Pass) and Proton Pass itself for accessing all the other accounts I have. This is an issue that needs to be fixed and the day that is implemented I will migrate fully to Proton Pass (and I will ditch the other password manager and TOTP app). I am looking forward for this to be done.

So glad we have to vote again since they don't understand and implemented something that's not what was wanted. This needs to be added before I consider switching to Proton Pass.

While Proton has made commendable efforts in developing ProtonPass, the extra password solves nothing, and the current design prevents it from serving its purpose as a password manager. The requirement to use the same password as other Proton products significantly reduces its utility and security benefits. Many users have expressed frustration with this constraint, as it essentially means they still need a separate password manager. For a company that prides itself on security and privacy, this approach is difficult to understand. The current implementation falls short of expectations, especially considering the caliber of talent at Proton... CERN, MITm caltech,Harvad, PhD´s etc. It would be beneficial for Proton to carefully consider user feedback and reevaluate their design choices for ProtonPass. A more flexible and secure solution that allows for a separate master password would greatly enhance ProtonPass's functionality and appeal. This change is necessary for ProtonPass to fulfill its intended role as a comprehensive password manager and align more closely with Proton's reputation for robust security measures. I am very disappointed to say the least, to see such a solution from a company like Proton, its hard to comprehend, and I am having difficulties to recommend Proton in general to anyone at the moment. ProtonPass is with its current design totally useless.

Does not seem to really correspond to the wishes expressed

Just one password, and different from the email account. Only this method is consistent.

Implementing this feature is the ONLY way I'll switch from my current password manager.

I just migrated. And realized that I can't separate my password manager from my email account password. Which just feels like an incredible oversight on the development teams part. I'm very thankful for an incredible password manager like this but there really should be separation between this and email. Or this and the rest of the Proton ecosystem. The goal here is to be secure. Reduce the attack surface. Not expand it.

This is what I wanted. Not an extra password that was released recently.

I am the original author for this ticket and for sure the solution you presented does not address it AT ALL.
I like that you listen to the community, but if that’s how you do it then you might as well not bother pretending… If this was a mistake due to a misunderstanding, it can happen (even though I thought I had clearly express the need). But please admit it and re-open the issue, thank you @Proton

As an addendum to my comment about allowing direct login into Proton Pass using a passKEY, I think allowing direct login using a 6-digit TOTP (generated by a third-party authenticator app like Duo Mobile or Authy) would also be a viable option. I would still avoid allowing direct login into Proton Pass with nothing but a single passWORD because then literally anyone with Internet access would in principle be able to breach your Proton Pass account, as opposed to only someone who has access to your biometric data (in the case of a passkey) or at the very least your smartphone (in the case of an authenticator app-generated TOTP).

@Proton, thank you for working so diligently on the Pass product, releasing and shipping new features so promptly. It really is awesome!

I just request that when you consider this ticket's upvote count in your feature-planning process, please add about 2000 to it. That number is from this ticket's parent (#46727686) which got reworked into something else entirely, but whose upvotes were really for what THIS ticket is now proposing.

I hope you agree that's only fair to the community and their valued votes.

@Proton, thank you for working so diligently on the Pass product, releasing and shipping new features so promptly. It really is awesome!

I just request that we remain honest here and not pretend like this ticket is "done". I see your new ticket, but please consider how misrepresented its upvote count is right now. By re-interpreting this ticket to mean something it did not, the originally requested feature now has to start from square one.

That's not fair.

Sigh, disappointing. I was so excited to see Proton officially confirm they were finally working on this feature request... only to now find out they got the feature requirements (specifications) wrong.

OP very clearly specified the end goal to be that the "Proton account is protected by a generated password that I can't and don't want to remember". Meaning that Pass should be accessible with "a completely different password than the one of my Proton account".

How does that get interpreted as an extra, additional password?

I was really happy when I saw they implemented separate password so I can finally migrate from BitWarden, but to my surprise they added additional password instead of a separate one!

Please Proton, listen to your community here and let us have a separate password that we can use to login only into Proton Pass and skip regular proton account password completely.

I think there was a big misunderstanding from Proton side in regards of this issue. I voted for SEPARATE password for proton pass so we can use only that one for getting into proton pass database and skip regular proton account password.

Edit: After reading other comments, I feel deceived here, as I'm not the only one who perfectly understood feature requirements, and Proton didn't.

This is not what I was voting for!
I need a SEPARATE password for Proton Pass, not an ADDITIONAL one.

I was planning to store my Proton password (which is a cryptic one I don't remember) inside of Proton Pass. When I now need my Proton password to access Proton Pass, that wouldn't work.

Proton Pass should work with a single password only and that password must NOT be the one from my Proton main account.

Please re-open this. In my opinion, an "extra" password is not a "separate" password and I think it entirely misses the point.

The idea is that I have one really big password that I have to remember. That's what I use for my password manager. (Right now that's 1password, but I'd love for it to be Proton Pass.) Once I unlock my password manager, then I can unlock my email with a password I've never seen before.

The extra password requires me to remember a really hard password for my email AND a really hard password for my password manager. That's a different feature. One I don't actually want.