2K votes. Can someone from Proton confirm this is even being worked on? Where should I store my Proton credentials if not in Proton Pass? So I should store those in another password manager so I can access Proton to get into Proton Pass? See the issue? Chicken/Egg?

Please work on this

Totally agree with that we need a seperate sign in for PP.
Dont know if I would renew if it remains in its current state.

Prefer that a passkey can be setup. A password is too susceptible to hacking.

When logging into Proton pass, allow the creation of a separate login password, instead of using your proton login password, or a proton user can stick to there proton password.

For me, what adds to the concerns is that all the password options like "always logged in", "PIN, or "second password" are not well technically documented. Or at least I cannot find a support article that explains exactly how a Proton password is stored locally (or not, or as passkeys?) by ProtonPass and where, and which password wraps which key. I really need to know this to the T in order to trust software with my utter digital identity.

I don't usually comment but this is genuinely needed, the only thing stopping me from moving from Bitwarden is this. Password Managers should be standalone secure vaults, something that BW has done right to a T. Although it's UI may not be perfect it's logical thought process from security to login process are done exactly right. Proton, please don't reinvent the wheel. It should be designed from password manager as the main central layer and any subsequent services (Proton Mail, VPN, etc.) are to be treated as secondary logins.

This is genuinely the only major negative point I have against proton pass after beginning to use it daily for the last month after switching from bitwarden. Pretty much the only thing i miss.

This is very important for the safety and comfort of the user. I would like each Proton service to use a separate password as well as an emergency contact in case you lose access like Norpass does.

Well... I was exporting all my bitwarden's vault into Proton Pass and then realised that I couldn't use Proton pass as a separated service.

If someone knows how to use Proton Pass along with other Proton Services, please let me know how, I am genuily interested.
I do not see how I can decently share my Proton Pass password with my ProtonMail password. The way ProtonPass is currently implemented forces me to have to log in my Proton Pass account to acces my ProtonMail account. See ? Need to log into Proton to acces my Proton password, that's wonderful x)

To be honest it baffles me, for pass to not have a master password and having to use the Proton account password, ironically increasing the security risk.

I second that.

I don't want my email to have the same password as my password manager whatsoever.

My email is heavily encrypted. my password manager has a good passwort, indeed, but i have password there, that i can remember. And where i don't need 2fa. My passwort manager has to be reachable, even when i have absolute lost everything - phone, pc, everything.

Agreed that this is a blocker for me to switch from bitwarden, as the login for protonmail is stored in my password manager. I realise I'm saying nothing new here, but wanted to be clear why this is an issue for me.

Perhaps if you've set a separate/extra password for proton pass – which you currently can do, and its great – you can log in via only that instead?
Or at least some settings to let me choose to do that for users that accept that its less secure.

Also I don't want to use a pin to authenticate when using the browser extension, is it possible to use the extra password?

For me it is critical that Proton Pass can be accessed with a master password instead of Proton's credentials as it is done in absolutely all other password managers.

I manage all my access data with Proton Pass. So on the one hand, it should be as easy and direct as possible to access Proton Pass quickly, and on the other hand, it should be as secure as possible.
For me, this means that Proton Pass needs its own login. And I personally would very much appreciate it if this were also possible via a hardware key such as Yubikey.

I agree with Joseph (19 april 25). In my case, I would like to access Proton mail (which needs strong randomized unmemorable password), via proton pass and his separate independeant password (complex but memorable) only. It works this way on KeepassX, for example. Other Proton apps might be accessible eventualy from this point.Thanks !

I created an account here just to comment on this issue and i hate making extra accounts. I am a proton unlimited paying customer and pretty happy with proton in general. I wanted to try out Proton Pass and want to like it. But this problem with the passwords just makes it basically unusable in my use case. I have a pretty complicated password i remember that gets me into my password vault. From there i can gain access to everything such as Proton Mail. This allows me to have everythng logged out and locked down on my device. If the Pass password is the same as my proton account, it means i have to memorize my proton account password. Certainly doable but not the way i have my security organized right now.

Anyway I will remain a customer but will not start using Pass until it has a separate and completely independent password from my proton account.

Thanks for reading.

I'd like to chime in and agree with many of the people here that to me it would make sense to be able to login with the extra password after the auto-lock and not with biometrics or a pin on a device where you're already logged in with Proton, since both of those are clearly not as secure as the external password. If someone can explain me why this is not necessary/possible, that would also be great. Until then, I will have to keep a different password manager just for logging in to Proton, since I'd prefer not to use my master password for all Proton accounts. And creating a separate Proton account just for this, as seems to be suggested by several people in this thread, sounds really illogical (also because I am already paying for this 1 account).

Proton Pass is blocked by my employer, which means I will need to subscribe to another password manager and not use this feature from Proton.

Here is the exact reason from IS-Security:
Unfortunately the Proton password manager application and web service are directly tied to the same domain that Proton uses for its VPN service. Due to this, we cannot allow access to the Proton domain on our managed devices that have access to patients' data - as we do not allow access to personal VPN services.

Still on bitwarden because of this

I'd particularly like to see this for browser extensions. Currently, there is no way to set the extra password as the authentication required after auto-lock - users are limited to no auto lock or setting a PIN. Why? I can do that with the Windows app, but not the extension? Forces me to have 3 passwords to access one service: Proton account password, extra password for Proton windows client, and PIN for Proton browser extension.

Bitwarden and Enpass aren't this convoluted.