Log into Proton Pass directly with its own password (without having to log into a Proton account first)

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A commented
I agree mail and password managers are among the most important accounts to safeguard.
But I use my VPN on insecure or untrusted devices, which would be tied to my email and password manager. A solution like Google's separate password feature would be ideal, though any solution for this would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
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joe commented
Yes please we need this, very critical.♥️
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Deso commented
I agree on this one, feel like it is needed. Also having the master-password instead of PIN
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Axel commented
It is a current real weakness
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NaN commented
Main reason I don't use Proton Pass
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Loris De Gaspari commented
For me it's a critical issue. I'll continue to use Bitwarden until you'll activate a masterpassword separated from Proton login. Agree with user SD below
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Pladist commented
They responded to a Reddit thread about this issue recently, and it seems like this is never going to be implemented. Moved back to Bitwarden. My Proton Unlimited plan is becoming less and less useful by the day.
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nomadrc commented
Has a dev responded to this or will they ever? Its blatantly obvious that the credentials used to login to and/or decrypt the Proton Pass password store should not in any way be connected to any other Proton service authentications. Fundamental underlying design flaw right from the start which I'm pretty surprised their supposed genius-level I.Q. team overlooked (or knowingly ignored in their zeal to connect all services Google-style). I'd really like to use Proton Pass but not gonna until or unless this is remedied correctly.
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uservoicebutter commented
For me it's also critical to have a separate password from the other proton services.
So I can save my normal proton password in the vault. -
Patrick commented
Apart from the chicken-egg problem, I don't even want to be logged in to proton account at all in the web browser. I just want to access the proton pass vault via the extension.
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SD commented
This is absolutely critical. How would I login to Proton services if my Proton password is stored within itself?!
Login to proton pass to retrieve credentials
Need credentials to login to proton pass to retrieve credentials
Need credentials to login to proton pass to retrieve credentials to login to proton pass
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and endless loop rendering ALL proton services inaccessible.If the "second password" is indeed for accessing only proton pass then that needs to be more clearly stated. As it stands, it sounds like there's two passwords I'd need to remember/enter in order to access any proton service. No good.
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D commented
It would help if you would close this thread, now, since the second password has been added to the application.
For everyone reading this, you can now set a second password and when you enter that, then it logs on the proton servers automatically using your account username and password.
This is an important addition because in my case I use a lower security, memorable password on my PC without having to enter my really complex high security account password (or no password) when the app stats in the morning. -
[Deleted User] commented
We need this.
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D commented
Absolutely CRITICAL!.
For local access, I must have a password that is required to get in to the app. NOT the same my main account password. I want to move to Proton Pass, but will not until there is a separate password.
This could be an optional feature, so that people who don't want a password don't need one or can use their main account password. -
JP commented
As I move to using Proton mail and toward creating more security, I will not move to PP without a separate, not ADDITIONAL, password.
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UV commented
It is so important to be aware that this ticket is just an extension of the previous - https://protonmail.uservoice.com/forums/953584-proton-pass/suggestions/46727686-use-a-different-password-for-protonpass ticket with OVER 1000 votes.
Therefore it has be acknowledged that this issue is at over 1500 votes now, lets be real. The way this is being handled is very disappointing, over something that should have been a given design structure from the beginning. So many people are refusing to use Proton because of this and I am one of them. I have not heard a single good reason for why this has not been implemented yet. If there is something I'm missing please explain why is there push back for this? -
Daniel Feige commented
I'll add as well that this is a critical feature required for any password manager.
I recently tried to transition and was shocked this feature was not already implemented and immediately reverted back to bitwarden.
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Arrogance commented
I have to add that I'm using bitwarden due to this matter.
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Mitchu commented
Unless Proton implements this feature, I will continue using other password managers instead.
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WoodBHermit commented
This is the main reason I have not yet switched to Proton Pass as my password manager.
Proton Pass must have a separate/unique password for manager access like the master password in LastPass and comparable software. This password must be different from the primary password used to access all the other Proton apps.
A second extra password for additional security does not address this crucial issue. I think there may have been a misunderstanding when this new feature was first requested: "separate/unique" incorrectly became "extra" for additional security.
Considering all the security issues that LastPass has had in recent years, at least they did get the idea of having a unique/separate (not extra) master password for password manager access correct from the very beginning.