While this would be a larger undertaking than development of individuals applications, having a Proton OS which could be deployed on mobile devices is likely to be a really effective approach to addressing a number of issues which are difficult to resolve in any other manner.

It is so hard to have visibility over what tech companies do with our data today and as they all largely treat data in the same manner, the options are either to adopt technology and be exploited or opt out altogether. As devices that are carried with us most of the time, mobile phones have the onboard capabilities required to capture a wealth of information on us.

While the Proton suite gives people options to protect their privacy, having these apps deployed on an operating system owned by the Googles of the world means that keys are still being secured through Android KeyStore and its analogues to which these companies would conceivably have access. Without securing the foundation on which the apps are stored at the OS layer, it is difficult to properly protect the information on the device.

Hi all,

Instead of reinventing the wheel, it would be nice to see a partnership between:
- Protonmail
- The /e/ OS https://e.foundation/about-e/
- A european manufacturer of mobile phone like Crosscall https://crosscall.com/en/about-us/

Objective: creating a completely deGAFAmised, open-source mobile in which end-users, organisation and government can trust.

Anyone with me? ;-p

PS : I have been using an /e/ OS mobile since september 2019 and I am fairly happy with it!

I don't know if this has been mentioned before, but maybe the /e/ OS is what you are looking for.

Is a completely de-goolaged OS with plenty of possibilities. I use it as my daily driver and have had no major problems so far.

See their website: https://e.foundation/

If you were to create a forum on this topic I would welcome the chance to participate.

Conceptually, I have some ideas on how this can be done, how you can get public support, how it can be used to make money (revenue$$$), and a simple place to start feature wise.

- It will be a virtual identity UI for all but those things with very strong legal protection (healthcare, banking, etc)
- Consider it to be a 'data OS'

LMK if I can help!

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Yes, Proton OS would help us to liberate ourselves from the Google ecosystem.
I highly support an OS free of Google tracking.
In fact, if they make an OS to be used in Virtual Environment would be a plus point.
Something similar to the Citrix Virtual Desktop...
I have linked to a page that imparts knowledge to you about Citrix Virtual Desktop.
Here it is https://www.clouddesktoponline.com/citrix-xen-desktop/

I second your idea too. They should make their own OS to support the cause of privacy and security.
Proton guys should come up with an OS that solves the problem of Android for once and for all.

While I agree there is a serious problem I don't see a practical solution.

BlackBerry's infrastructure and devices were far more private and useful than google and Android. But BlackBerry is dead.

Sheeple are eager and willing to embrace the surveilance society in exchange for making their lives easier. Do you know anybody who doesn't have Android TV or Apple with Siri? All the sheeple in the world willingly give up all their privacy for convenience. Sick, but no way to fight it.

The problem is apps. If nobody supports private apps you will not be able to rent a car or a motel room, buy tickets to a concert etc. It's game over, folks. The only thing we can do privately is calls and emails. Ecommerce is a security and privacy nightmare that is out of control.

GrapheneOS is awesome if you can find the right FOSS apps that will work for you. Alternately you can install a custom ROM without Google apps and use microG to spoof Google, so you still have a decent user experience on your phone. Lots of info on XDA Developers to help you with this.

Bad idea. No need to strech scarce dev resources on something which requires are BIG effort to do right.

this is why they label their comments link as "Dreams". they need to focus on what theyre good at, and thats secure email and VPN, not an entire OS. just use Tails and Tor for your webbrowsing, CCleaner on top of that top keep your harddrive clean, ect. do some research people. most of what you're suggesting is already out there.

While this is a cool idea, as a Product guy, I can say it's better for us all if Proton focuses on the tools they're already building. Make the Mail and Calendar products top of the class solutions. An OS would be an enormous drain on the organization.

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Please do this. We need it.

I would not rally around protonmail to solve this particular problem. We should be supporting efforts like postmarketOS and mobile NixOS. PinePhone is the way forward! :)

Have a look at Ubuntu Touch and Pinephone, they are open source and privacy focused but just need some help with development.

Yes, Please. I am an embedded developer, and I am ready to help.

I think it is best to help with the development of Ubuntu Touch or any other Linux distro for smartphones.

Just use GrapheneOS. So good it's endorsed by Ed Snowden.