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  1. 20 votes

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    Saar commented  · 

    Arch Linux package should be there, I agree. There's another ticket for this, they should be merged.

    Proton should have additional setup tabs for specific distros, but refer to Linux as one thing. Linux: supported.

    If it runs on one Linux distro, it will be pretty much guaranteed to run on other distros as well. There's no need to over-complicate this. Distro-specific packages are nice, but that is often done by voluntairs and distro maintainers.

    I think they should start by offering packages for Fedora and Arch, as well as a Flatpak package.

    Anyway, don't over-compliate this. Linux is Linux. Distro-specific packages is as simple as package configuration.

    New users gets really confused by this. With universal package formats, the distro problem is solved. Then they can expand with more distro-specific packages afterwards.

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  2. 56 votes

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    Saar commented  · 

    Make that pretty much all Linux Distros. Just write Linux, to be honest. Then have additional setup tabs for specific distros.

    If it run on one Linux distro, it will likely simply run on other distros as well. There's no need to over-complicate this. Distro-specific packages are nice, but that is often done by voluntairs and distro maintainers.

    I think they should start by offering packages for Fedora and Arch, as well as a Flatpak package. Perhabs a .deb package for Debian and Ubuntu derivatives. But those distros aren't really to be recommended as they are constantly outdated due to the update structure, their package manager isn't as intuitive to use and Ubuntu has done countless questionable things. Also, the KDE Plasma desktop environment is more stable, more intuitive for most people (beginners and advanced users alike), beautiful and stable. It's feature-rich and adopt universal protocols instead of removing things like the system tray and breaking apps like Gnome does from time to time (then refuses to work with others because they're too stubborn and narrow-minded).

    Anyway, don't over-compliate this. Linux is Linux. Distro-specific packages is as simple as package configuration.

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    Saar commented  · 

    Wayland is very important for security. It's one of the fundamental reasons it was created, because X.Org (not X11) didn't have the potential to solve its fundamental problems.

    So to see Proton neglecting security like this on Linux is sad. It's the more secure OS option and still they are favoring Windows users. Essentially giving them a reason to stay in Windows.

    The comment below is a good explanation of X.Org and Wayland. Only nitpick is that X11 is not the correct term. X.Org is the open sourced variant of X11 and the one in use on Linux.

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  4. 5 votes

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    Saar commented  · 

    There's already a ticket for this, go vote on that instead (it has more votes too): https://protonmail.uservoice.com/forums/284483-proton-mail-calendar/suggestions/49099112-wayland-support

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    Saar commented  · 

    They say they use Linux themselves and promote the usage of Linux. Unfortunately, Linux users are second-class citizens.

    The mission is to give people reasons and viable paths away from data mining, poor security and people as products, right? Why are they giving people reasons to stay on Windows?

    And why didn't they start open source development on Linux apps? The community would be all over it helping development already (even though Proton should do it). It would at least achieve the end-goal. Instead of always being the ****** because you choose to use the secure and private OS option. It's not how it should be and I'm disappointed. The result is that I haven't used Proton Drive and other services much. I pay for it too, so it's kinda unfortunate that it's not more readily available.

    I thought they would put more effort into Linux. Their VPN app also is quite tedious to use. You have to search up every country every time instead of just clicking a map, which is the ultimate GUI solution! An they removed this on Android, requiring every re-connect to be many tedious taps and typing. I don't understand what's going on over there lately. :/

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    Saar commented  · 

    Mass appeal... :/ There's already a ticket for this: https://protonmail.uservoice.com/forums/284483-proton-mail-calendar/suggestions/47788163-linux-client

    Go vote on that instead.

    Also, can we write in English so everyone understand? Jeg er norsk så jeg leser svensk, men det er mange som ikke skjønner skandinavisk. ;)

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    Saar commented  · 

    I can't continue to use Proton Calendar if it doesn't support DAV syncing. I'll then use NextCloud instead.

    I really hope they implement syncing, as this is an essential feature just like import and export.

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    Saar commented  · 

    For regular people, the price is hard to swallow. There is nothing between free and fairly expensive. It's very understandable that they need to charge to keep the operation going, but I wonder how many more people would pay if there was a more affordable plan. Regular, non-power users, just need enough storage and preferably the ability to send from the "pm.me" domain.

    I also think there could be work done to make it easier to clean up your inbox. There's also a bunch of redundant data (logos and corporate pictures that are the same for tens of e-mails - this adds up).

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    Saar commented  · 

    I think it's better to focus on laying the ground work for other projects. For instance, getting a collaboration with a Android distro team or simply forking a project.

    The problem with this, though, is that making sure a distro is actually more secure is a lot of work. They also have to know that they can trust the dev team so that the end-product is something they can put the Proton name by.

    Building an OS from the ground up, however, is a daunting task that is not realistic at this point. No matter how cool it could be.

    Having said that, I'd rather have a better Android OS than something all new that would require every app maker to make a new version. It's just not feasable and it wouldn't do much for "privacy for the masses". They focus on making mainstream alternatives that happen to be secure and private. You don't need to start an OS development project (that will likely fail and be highly costly) to achieve this.

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    Introducing Docs in Proton Drive – collaborative document editing that’s actually private: https://proton.me/blog/docs-proton-drive

    With Docs you can:

    • Write with privacy Create and edit documents within Proton Drive, knowing your contents are only accessible to you and those you choose to share with.
    • Share and invite anyone — Invite other users to view or edit your documents with a single click.
    • Collaborate in real-time — Changes are reflected immediately, ensuring every contributor always sees the most up-to-date version.
    • View cursors and presence indicators — See who else is viewing or editing the document, enhancing teamwork and communication.
    • Leave comments and replies — Add comments to share feedback without editing the document. Comments are visible to all collaborators, keeping everyone in the loop.
    • Import and export with ease — You can upload .docx documents, edit them, and download in various formats like .docx, .txt, .md, and HTML.
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    Saar commented  · 

    This is a daunting task. I already found missing features in Google Docs and I'm not even an advanced spreadsheeter (as a matter of fact, I'm a beginner).

    I'd love this, though. I just fear it would end up being a worse contender to Google Docs or something full fledged as Libre Office and you'd end up using one of those anyway.

    If they can pull it off, I'd definitely use it! But it has to be compatible with a workflow that mixes between offline, collaboration and different file types etc. It should also be smart and allow for extensions.

    What about focusing on the ground work for open source projects? Making the security core and the open source community could create apps and programs like these? Someone mentioned CryptPad. Could this team collaborate with Proton? Or could they fork the project?

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    Saar commented  · 

    Developing a browser takes a lot of time and there are already other really good projects like Brave Browser out there based on Chromium that this functionality could be built upon.

    No need for Proton to get into browser development. It would only take away recources from other projects.

    This functionality could likely be achieved with a browser extension or integration. Perhaps a fork of an open source browser project.

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    Saar commented  · 

    I'm not an editor, publisher or book maker but I still think you should be able to set a default.

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