@Happy,

Just use Signal for gawdsake! I don't trust Protonmail that much; they can't even fix up their existing bugs in a timely manner.

The reason I want protonchat, is because i trust PM enough that i desire a suite of secure proton-services. And that includes a secure chat/messaging-service.

This is not necessary. There are already great messaging apps out there, with no connections "to the likes of Google and Facebook", which are also free and excel in terms of privacy features.

I know, i know... There are others posts about the same subject. A lot of people talk about "ProtonChat", but the biggest problem here is that there are a lot of alternative already, and the issue with them is the userbase. No wonder that Whatsapp is still one of the most used services.

Now, in my proposition here, I would like to say that in my opinion "ProtonChat" should yes exist, but not as a standalone thing with proprietary protocol. It would be great to implement the well known Matrix Protocol (https://matrix.org/blog/home/) in order to enable end-to-end chat and calls (straight on the web version, and maybe implemented through the bridge).

This would allow all the ProtonMail users to communicate in other ways compared to E-Mail only, and still with other users/apps (like the famous Riot). And last but not least, it will make a lot of people aware of other services for communication, and help "make the switch" to them (in this case to the Matrix protocol).

What are your opinions?

Anyone of is in agreeance with my sentiments can place their votes here:

https://protonmail.uservoice.com/forums/284483-feedback/suggestions/32772787-just-focus-on-your-core-values-and-avoid-feature-c

I wish this service had a vote DOWN button.

There are sufficient alternatives out in the wilds of the internet to deliver this requirement.

All this does is distract the Proton Dev people and push precious resources onto frivolous projects when they should be focusing on their core service that we have already paid for, being EMAIL ...that is still deficient in so many areas.

Grrr

Considering the upheaval that WhatsApp is involved in would it be possible for you to come up with a Secure Messaging Facility / App to compliment your already excellent email and VPN facility...

Assalamualaikum, saya ingin mendapat kepastian limit kilometer untuk minyak enjin fully synthetic adalah 10000km tetapi saya ingin mengetahui limit untuk sehingga membatalkan waranti kerete dengan pihak proton sebenarnya adlah berapa kilometer?

I'm with the many who recommend Signal, and we use it throughout our family.

WhatsApp may use Signal's protocol, but the servers at WhatsApp store your decryption key. This means your messages can be decrypted by coding errors, by crooked employees when curious or when payed off, or when the company forced to do so by the authorities.

If you are truly concerned about keeping your SMS messages private, I wouldn't recommend WhatsApp.

Then go back to FB!! Why are you even here? Social sites are expensive to run and rape your data. period.

It would be a great idea IF you had someone there to talk to.
There already are several secure+encrypted+fully-open-source chat programs, but it's hard to convince your family and friends to use it, so it would be a bit waste of resources to build that app.

Agreed, no need to start a new project. This already exists. There are lots of things that don't exist, no need to spend time on the things that do exist.

I would gladly pay extra for this feature. (Even though I am happy with ThreeMa)
(And I paid for a VPN service ($7/month), before you gave us ProtonVPN)
Paying $30 per month, is ,in my opinion, a steal for all the services you provide.

In my opinion, ProtonChat should automatically delete messages that are older than two days, unless a user will save them in special folder, for example as "to do", "reminder", etc. This would allow to save space on servers and of course to improve security. For users usually there is no need to come back do messages that we send on daily basis.

It would be better to use the gold standard for security. SIGNAL. It's available for all platforms and is open source.

Is any Hangouts available in protonmail?
I need a Secure private chat.
How can i get that?
regards

We need a support that just answer (would be nice), take action and make things happen.
No access to an email account for more than a week is just intolerable!!!!!

https://conversations.im/compliance

has a good list of public jabber texting servers

Be *securely* notified of new messages -- without the mail contents.

I use maybe a dozen methods of messaging both email and i.m I use whatsapp, wire, imessage, telegram, email and so on. The only one that breaks my workflow is proton mail by forcing me to log in with manual typing every time on every device, as a result I have found I tend to avoid using it; which isn't ideal. Protonmail is probably the best, but I need it to work (meaning to flow) seamlessly. Please. If this is my user error I will be very happy to hear it :-)