Log into Proton Pass directly with its own password (without having to log into a Proton account first)

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Karu commented
I'd like to see SSO between all products including the uservoice forum!
To be fair, once a passkey has authenticated you along with 2FA, it's safe to say your in and perhaps at worst, an extra biometric catch on the passkey but not a full account login anywhere. Definitely a very nice to have.... :)
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bem commented
How can Proton's engineers make such a nonsensical mistake/solution?
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Aleksandr commented
What is also very annoying is that Proton Pass, with the extra password, doesn't work the same way as Proton Mail in the two-password mode. The extra password in Proton Pass is not used to encrypt emails. That is the best way to confuse people.
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Tim commented
This and the previous (improperly closed, IMO) request now has nearly 1,900 votes. A second password on top of the master is, in some ways, a little helpful but is not nearly sufficient. Please give us this. I will continue to use Bitwarden as my primary password manager until this is done.
It is obvious how much the user base needs this.
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Max commented
I am a Proton Unlimited user. Would like to switch to using Proton Pass from 1P. However, it seems that in order to login to Proton Pass, you have to have access to your Proton password and 2FA (if enabled), which cannot be generated until you are logged into Pass! Therefore, you would have to have your Proton password memorized and use a recovery code to get logged into Pass. Or, you would have to use another password manager for your Proton credentials and 2FA, which defeats the purpose of switching to Proton Pass. With 1P, there is a secret key and then a Master Password, so you never run into this problem. So, it seems like it would make sense to have a separate login method for Proton Pass. Or am I missing something?
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potto commented
https://protonmail.uservoice.com/users/6360081178-golliwog already provides the exact reason why "extra password" is not a solution to this issue. Please fix.
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Simon commented
I love the Proton suite, and would really like to use ProtonPass, but having to login to ProtonPass via my Proton account makes that impossible. I'm currently using 1password, and I have a randomy generated password for my Proton account.
If I want to migrate to ProtonPass I have to downgrade the password on my Proton account to a less secure one that I can remember, and that defeats the whole purpose.
We need a totally separate login for our ProtonPass login, instead of logging in via the Proton account.
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Aleksandr commented
This request got more than 800 votes and 100 comments. It would be nice, if the Proton team could response to it. Even a negative response is better than nothing.
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James commented
Proton unlimited customer (happy user). I would really like to use Proton Pass instead of 1Password (costing me extra AUD100 per 6 months). Standing in my way is unnecessary inconvenience around login for installed apps (Windows and Android). Yes, upon installation, log in with full account user and password, but after that, only use the second password and/or biometrics.
I have a strong Proton account password, for which I use a password manager - that is, I currently need a password manager to get into my password manager, and that doesn't work for me. I'm currently choosing to continue paying for 1Password until the PP usability improves.
Request is that for installed apps, only require full account user and password for things that need to access the account across the web. Otherwise use a second stage password or biometric for local app access.
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jim commented
I have only ever used Bitwarden and have been looking at Proton Pass primarily as it integrates unlimited email aliases. I am quite shocked by how this password manager functions for 2 reasons:
I signed up with a proton email (free, private, anonymous), but I must login to Proton Pass with the same password as the email account associated, so if I want a strong password I have to use it for my email too rather than having 1 strong password I have to remember just for my password manager (which is the whole point).
Another thing I cannot wrap my head around is why when I want to login to the browser extension, it opens a tab in my browser to login? Why can't it be logged in, in the extension? This doesn't feel secure to me. It feels wrong.
Am i missing something? Is this actually how it works in Februrary 2025?
I have no choice but to stay with Bitwarden, I will integrate SimpleLogin for aliases. It isn't too bad really as you can buy a year of SimpleLogin, create your aliases and when you do not renew, you get to keep all the aliases and still reply from them. I just wanted to use Proton Pass as it was all integrated under 1 subscription opposed to a Bitwarden and SimpleLogin subscriptions.
This seems like child like logic, how could Proton design it like this? Surely they see a password manager as a bit different from the rest of their products?
Innocent, non tech saavy users who want to commit totally to proton are going to get rekt with this.
And btw, the sign up system to this site is just ridiculous.
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Miata FunRun commented
We need this feature. I think I will have to use Bitwarden until this is resolved.
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Masq commented
I was awaiting the feature request earlier that was for a second password for Proton Pass... But I believe that was misunderstood. I do like the "second password" on top of the original password feature.
However, my main use case is actually storing my Proton service password within Proton Pass itself. If I move devices, etc. I need to know the Proton service password to be able to access Proton Pass, but it's a random password generated by and stored within Proton Pass. A chicken and egg scenario.
With this feature, we're hoping that we have a separate password to login to Proton Pass so that we can store the other Proton Services password within Proton Pass and not get locked out from everything (that way we can have a very strong Proton Services Password that doesn't need to be memorable).
Hopefully this comment helps! Thanks for all your work on these fantastic products/services!
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Benoit commented
Dear Proton Team,
As a long-standing Proton Unlimited user, I wanted to share my thoughts, like many others did, on this feature.
I’ve been extensively using most of your services—Mail, Drive, VPN, and Calendar—and I’m consistently impressed by the level of privacy and usability you provide. For a long time, I relied on a separate password manager for storing and managing my credentials, while using Proton Pass primarily for hide-my-email aliases and less critical passwords.
Recently, I decided to migrate my passwords entirely to Proton Pass due to its excellent usability, the wonderful Pass Monitor feature, and the overall seamless experience. To that end, I updated my master password, which was a complex but unmemorable password, to a complex but memorable one.
However, like others, I feel uneasy about using the same master password—the encryption key—for all Proton services. My primary concern is the potential risk of my encryption key being compromised while using a less sensitive service. Even with 2FA enabled, if the encrypted data were ever leaked in a breach, someone could just decrypt all the data and access it. This isn’t just about protecting the account anymore; it’s about protecting the data itself.
While I understand that the current unified encryption model works well for most users, I personally feel it would be beneficial to have the option for separate encryption keys for different services. For instance, I’d like to use one encryption key for Proton Pass, another for Mail and Drive, and I wouldn’t mind using my Proton account master password for calendar and VPN, as these contain very different types of sensitive information. This would ensure that even in the event of a breach, exposure is limited to one category of data, providing an additional layer of security.
Of course, I would still be deeply concerned if someone accessed my emails or Drive files, but it feels significantly riskier to have all my passwords tied to the same encryption key. And with hardware security keys like Yubikey protecting account access, it’s possible to prevent unauthorized login attempts. The challenge is more about protecting what malicious actors could decrypt if they ever obtained both the encryption key and the encrypted data.
I truly appreciate the work you do to provide a secure ecosystem for your users, and I hope you will consider adding this feature to provide greater flexibility and control over encryption keys for those who desire it.
Thank you for taking the time to consider this feedback.
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A commented
@Delivator
If you have a device you don't feel comfortable logging in with your password manager master password (where I assume the most sensitive info is for most users) but still want to use your VPN, drive, or mail for example. Having to memorize two, truly secure, passwords for this is cumbersome. A single strong password is also more secure than using two weaker passwords, where only one is used for encrypting your data.
As an ultimate subscriber I would have to pay again to activate a new premium account. At that point I just use bitwarden because its cheaper. While I recognize the use case is relatively niche, a two password system, with an additional possible mailbox password isn't the answer either. It becomes too clunky for the end user without completely addressing what was asked.
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Delivator commented
I don't understand this request.If you want your proton pass to be completely seperate from other proton services, just create a new account? Otherwise just use the PIN or biometric authentication. I never have to enter my proton passwort to access pass. Just once when linking my account.
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Hibu commented
They Implemented a feature that allows you to add an extra password to open Proton Pass once you already have logged into your proton account, which doesn’t **FUKING**** make any sense because you have to already know your account password to then enter the second password to log into your Proton Pass, which is ****FUKING*** ****BS****
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ryefly commented
It would be nice to know if this suggestion is ever accepted and implemented. Otherwise I will cancel my membership. A separate password for Pass is essential.
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Donald Roy commented
be as throw as possible
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Mark commented
It is very off-putting that this request isn't even under review, and the previous feature request for the same thing, with over 1,000 votes, was closed after the implementation of a second password.
We did **not** ask to enter a second password to login to Proton Pass. We asked for the ability to enter **one password, separate from our main Proton login,** to login to pass.
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ryefly commented
I'm shocked that there is no separate master password for Pass. This definitely needs to be added. How can I log in on a new PC if I don't know the Proton password? You can't log in anywhere like this. Please implement it!
This makes the change from 1P to Pass impossible.As I understand it, Proton thinks that this request is fulfilled with the additional password. But that was never what the customers wanted. It will probably never happen, which is a shame!