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1. Increase web results

   I should be able to ask Lumo to research at least 15 reviews of a product or broaden the search. It can be a useable platform when the bias is so high from so little results. Especially when it finds selling platform results first.

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2. Emphasize that user data is never used to train AI models

   From the Lumo "Getting started" webpage: "Information you enter is never used to train AI models." I think this should be emphasized more and expounded on, perhaps giving scenarios using both Lumo and other AI chatbots. (It looks like a no-brainer choice, to me, of which bot to use given that all the other ones (Maybe not DuckAssist?) exploit you and your data/thoughts.) While the privacy mantra of Proton is well-known and can be assumed, that's no reason to be subtle.

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3. Link to Proton Drive Folder Sync’d with Proton Drive App Desktop Folder

   Background, Integration, and Scenerio:

   Lumo Project:
   I am working on a project with Lumo and have files linked in a Proton Drive folder – all is good. To do this, I open my browser, navigate to the linked folder, and upload the relevant files and documents.

   Desktop Proton Drive App:
   I also use the Proton Drive app on my desktop to sync specific folders to Proton Drive – works flawlessly and the syncing is quick and efficient.

   Lumo Integration:
   Currently, Lumo cannot Link with a Proton Drive folder sync’d by the Proton Drive App. It would be vastly more efficient if Lumo could link to a folder sync’d by the Proton Drive with a desktop working folder.

   Scenario:
   I am working on a project with Lumo, I files that it can reference for the project. Rather than constantly uploading documents through a browser interface, I would simply use a folder that is synchronized by the Proton Drive desktop app and link that to the project for Lumo to collaborate with. Example, create a desktop folder such as “Lumo Project Folder”, add it Proton Drive app for syncing, store any working files in that folder, then begin collaborating with Lumo on the project. When the green check box appears on the Proton Drive app, continue the project collaboration – fast and efficient.

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   I want Lumo to access Proton Drive folders that I am syncing with the Proton Drive app for a vastly more efficient collaboration experience.

   Background, Integration, and Scenerio:

   Lumo Project:
   I am working on a project with Lumo and have files linked in a Proton Drive folder – all is good. To do this, I open my browser, navigate to the linked folder, and upload the relevant files and documents.

   Desktop Proton Drive App:
   I also use the Proton Drive app on my desktop to sync specific folders to Proton Drive – works flawlessly and the syncing is quick and efficient.

   Lumo Integration:
   Currently, Lumo cannot Link with a Proton Drive folder sync’d by the Proton Drive App. It would be vastly more efficient… more

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4. Use better open-source ai models.

   Dear Proton Team,

   I would like to propose integrating several high-quality open-source AI models into the Lumo platform. These models align with Proton’s core values of privacy, transparency, and user data sovereignty, while offering excellent performance and flexibility.

   The recommended models include GPT-OSS 120B, LLaMA 3, DeepSeek-V3, Mistral 8x22B, and BLOOM. These models stand out because they are open source, enabling complete self-hosting and customization. This means Proton can maintain full control over user data, keeping all processing within secured European data centers, aligned with Proton’s zero-access policy and strong privacy commitments.

   GPT-OSS 120B offers powerful capabilities close to proprietary large models but without API dependency and high ongoing costs. LLaMA 3 is dialog-optimized and supports long context windows, enhancing user interaction experience. DeepSeek-V3 presents a highly efficient mixture-of-experts architecture with exceptional scaling potential. Mistral 8x22B balances performance and resource demands, fitting well with Proton’s infrastructure. BLOOM provides multi-language support and responsible open-source licensing, broadening Lumo’s global reach.

   By choosing these models, Proton can deliver a privacy-first, performant AI assistant that scales from edge devices to enterprise deployments, all under Proton’s full control. This approach boosts user trust, reduces dependency on third parties, and aligns with evolving global privacy regulations.

   Thank you for considering this proposal.

   Dear Proton Team,

   I would like to propose integrating several high-quality open-source AI models into the Lumo platform. These models align with Proton’s core values of privacy, transparency, and user data sovereignty, while offering excellent performance and flexibility.

   The recommended models include GPT-OSS 120B, LLaMA 3, DeepSeek-V3, Mistral 8x22B, and BLOOM. These models stand out because they are open source, enabling complete self-hosting and customization. This means Proton can maintain full control over user data, keeping all processing within secured European data centers, aligned with Proton’s zero-access policy and strong privacy commitments.

   GPT-OSS 120B offers powerful capabilities close to proprietary… more

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5. Ability to delete portions of chats that are not useful

   It would be great to have the ability to select and delete portions of chats that are not useful or were perhaps irrelevant to the query intent so as to streamline a chat to only contain the most relevant information for future reference.

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6. Restructure Lumo tiers

   Dear Proton Community and Development Team,

   We propose a restructuring of Proton Lumo's Free and Plus tiers to maximize user acquisition, engagement, and the demonstration of Lumo's powerful capabilities, while still maintaining Proton's commitment to privacy and sustainable growth. The current free tier's strict weekly query limit, while understandable for resource management, can hinder broad adoption and prevent users from fully experiencing the potential of Lumo.

   Our proposal is as follows:
   1. Lumo Free Tier Enhancement:
   * Unlimited Access to an Efficient AI Model: This would provide users with a robust, always-available AI for everyday tasks such as quick questions, brainstorming, simple content generation (e.g., drafting emails, social media posts), and basic information retrieval. This "efficient" model would prioritize speed and cost-effectiveness, making Lumo a truly reliable and consistent tool for daily, non-intensive AI interactions.
   * Limited Access to a Powerful AI Model (Reasoning, Math, Code, Complex Analysis): To allow free users to experience the cutting-edge capabilities of Lumo's more advanced models, we propose offering a limited quota for these "powerful" models. This limited access could be, for example, a specific number of queries per day/week, or a total token count. This "taste" of the powerful AI would be invaluable for showcasing its potential for complex problem-solving, detailed analysis, coding assistance, and advanced reasoning, thereby creating a compelling reason to upgrade.

   1. Lumo Plus/Pro Tier:

   • Unlimited Access to All Models (Efficient and Powerful): The premium tier would offer completely unrestricted access to both the efficient and powerful AI models. This would cater to power users, professionals, and developers who require seamless, high-volume access to Lumo's full range of capabilities for their critical and demanding tasks. This tier would retain all current Lumo Plus benefits, such as extended history, file uploads, and prioritized support, ensuring a comprehensive premium experience.

   Justification and Benefits:
   * Increased User Acquisition & Engagement: An "unlimited efficient" free tier would significantly lower the barrier to entry, encouraging more users to adopt Lumo for their daily AI needs, making it a staple tool.
   * Effective Upsell Strategy: By offering a direct, hands-on experience with the "powerful" AI models (even if limited) in the free tier, users can concretely see the value of upgrading to Lumo Plus for unlimited, high-performance capabilities. This shifts the upgrade incentive from "lifting a restriction" to "unlocking greater power."
   * Demonstration of Value: This model clearly differentiates the utility of various AI models, educating users on when to use a quick, efficient model versus a deep, powerful one.
   * Alignment with Proton's Mission: By offering a highly functional free tier, Proton reinforces its commitment to making privacy-focused tools accessible to everyone, while still maintaining a sustainable revenue model through the premium offering.
   * Competitive Edge: This tiered approach could position Lumo more competitively against other AI services by providing a genuinely useful and less restrictive free option, especially for users prioritizing privacy.

   We believe this proposed structure would greatly enhance the Lumo user experience, drive adoption, and clearly articulate the value proposition of Lumo Plus, strengthening Proton's position in the AI landscape.

   Thank you for considering this proposal.

   Dear Proton Community and Development Team,

   We propose a restructuring of Proton Lumo's Free and Plus tiers to maximize user acquisition, engagement, and the demonstration of Lumo's powerful capabilities, while still maintaining Proton's commitment to privacy and sustainable growth. The current free tier's strict weekly query limit, while understandable for resource management, can hinder broad adoption and prevent users from fully experiencing the potential of Lumo.

   Our proposal is as follows:
   1. Lumo Free Tier Enhancement:
   * Unlimited Access to an Efficient AI Model: This would provide users with a robust, always-available AI for everyday tasks such as quick questions,… more

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7. Mark Project Chats as Project Knowledge

   I would to be able to mark a thread within a project as a Project Knowledge Document. Often when I first create a project I use a chat/thread to dump a lot of my thoughts and build out a context. It would be helpful if that knowledge could be used in the other threads. Ive used a work around of having Lumo summarize the chats and saving it to a work document which I then upload, but it would be quicker if there was a toggle button.

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8. Calendar Booking buffers

   Calendar Booking. I just found this feature on Proton and LOVE it I've been trying to use 3rd party booking tools. The enhancement it needs is to be able to set buffers before/after events on the calendar so they are not back to back. Other booking tools have this feature and found it very helpful.

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9. Increase search engines in lumo

   Currently there are only a few.

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10. Lumo payment separate from my other products

    Currently, to sign up for Lumo+, you must add it to your current subscription, with the same time period, so if you have a 1-year subscription, you have to pay for 1 year of Lumo, if you have a 2-year subscription, you have to pay for 2 years of Lumo up front.

    The other option is to lose all the discounts on your main Proton account in order to activate Lumo+ for the new term.

    For example, if you have a 2-year Duo subscription (€11.99 per month) and you only want 1 month of Lumo for both users, you have to switch to the monthly price, which increases the price to €45.97. This is more expensive than Visionary!

    Lumo needs to have a separate billing option. Or fix the prices, because I will never subscribe this way. And I want to support it.

    Currently, to sign up for Lumo+, you must add it to your current subscription, with the same time period, so if you have a 1-year subscription, you have to pay for 1 year of Lumo, if you have a 2-year subscription, you have to pay for 2 years of Lumo up front.

    The other option is to lose all the discounts on your main Proton account in order to activate Lumo+ for the new term.

    For example, if you have a 2-year Duo subscription (€11.99 per month) and you only want 1 month of Lumo for both users, you have… more

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11. Implement Bias Mitigation for Chinese Open-Weight Models (Qwen, Kimi K2)

    As noted in Lumo's Privacy Documentation, the system currently routes queries to several open-weight models, including Qwen and Kimi K2. While utilizing these models supports cost-efficiency and open-source diversity, research (e.g., NDSS 2026, "S1761") indicates they contain significant internal censorship and narrative engineering aligned with authoritarian state interests.

    Proton’s core mission is to champion digital rights, encryption, and freedom against state surveillance. However, deploying models with embedded propaganda or censorship mechanisms creates a contradiction:

    • Cognitive Risk: Users may receive subtly altered information or suppressed viewpoints on sensitive geopolitical topics (e.g., HK, Taiwan, human rights).
    • Value Misalignment: This conflicts with Proton's historical stance supporting activists and resisting authoritarian control.

    Proton should implement a bias mitigation layer specifically for these models. This could involve:

    • Post-Training Alignment: Applying techniques similar to those discussed in ACL 2023 ("Mitigating Bias in Large Language Models") to strip state-aligned censorship.
    • Routing Logic: Automatically routing sensitive queries (political, human rights, censorship-related) to models with stronger neutrality guarantees (e.g., Apertus, Llama variants) or applying strict red-teaming filters.
    • Transparency: Clearly labeling when a response originates from a model known to have censorship constraints.

    Why This Matters: For a privacy-first platform serving a global audience, the integrity of the information provided is as critical as the encryption of the channel. Mitigating these biases ensures Lumo remains a tool for liberation rather than an unwitting vector for state narratives.

    As noted in Lumo's Privacy Documentation, the system currently routes queries to several open-weight models, including Qwen and Kimi K2. While utilizing these models supports cost-efficiency and open-source diversity, research (e.g., NDSS 2026, "S1761") indicates they contain significant internal censorship and narrative engineering aligned with authoritarian state interests.

    Proton’s core mission is to champion digital rights, encryption, and freedom against state surveillance. However, deploying models with embedded propaganda or censorship mechanisms creates a contradiction:

    • Cognitive Risk: Users may receive subtly altered information or suppressed viewpoints on sensitive geopolitical topics (e.g., HK, Taiwan, human rights).
    • Value Misalignment: This conflicts with Proton's… more
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12. Option turn off anthropomorphic thinking and text

    I am currently very ritated

    why? I am wasting time, energy, and most of all TOKENS because of lumo's anthropomorphic beheviour.

    I understand people love anthropomorphic AIs.

    Can we however have an option to turn if off?

    And i really really really hope i do not need to explain what anthropomorphic in Ais means.

    because i my suggestion is NEXT LEVEL

    as in thinking and the text.

    Lumo keeps repeating the same answers, or otherwise, without thinking even when explicitly told to stop.

    when it finally stops to thinking, more then half of the "thinking" are simple anthropomorphic related text.

    Oh User is frustrated because i did this and i should have not. I need to make sure i apologies to user. I need to make sure i acknolage. I need to this. I need to do that. <- absolutly NONE of them are relevant to the task. and albsolutly ALL of them occure each time Lumo finally thinks.

    We are wasting most of out time, energy, and resources, because of this anthropomorphic elements in an AI.

    or what, is it a crime, heath risk, fraud, abuse, something? that an ais is not constanly determin how to "not offend" someone who is explicitly telling it to stop with this commenteries about what it did, what it did wrong, apologies, acknolagements, what it will do, as in reassurances, and ..... Did i make it clear? ALL of this, even if they are NOT in the output, they are if you simple check the thinking. And this happens alll the time. Insted of Lumo chekcing the tast, or instructions, or otherwise, it preocupised with anthropomorphic beheviour.

    For proton: I hope you understand that I am not talking about preferences but about the fact that a paid product is wasting time, mental energy, is getting absurd for not reason, it's producing text that is unsolicited, unproductive, ilogical at time AND it is PREVENTING anything to progress:

    You are right, i should have not, i will from now

    Here is again what i just wrote because I run out of tokens or time to actually proccess the task

    I am currently very ritated

    why? I am wasting time, energy, and most of all TOKENS because of lumo's anthropomorphic beheviour.

    I understand people love anthropomorphic AIs.

    Can we however have an option to turn if off?

    And i really really really hope i do not need to explain what anthropomorphic in Ais means.

    because i my suggestion is NEXT LEVEL

    as in thinking and the text.

    Lumo keeps repeating the same answers, or otherwise, without thinking even when explicitly told to stop.

    when it finally stops to thinking, more then half of the "thinking" are simple anthropomorphic related text.

    … more

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13. Combine the lumo plan with mail and drive plan.

    Right now, I am paying for proton family, but the subscription does not carry over to Lumo. It wants me to pay for Lumo separately. Why doesn't proton combine them so that one subscription covers everything?

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14. More General Transparency

    As privacy is a main concern for most of your users I wish for more transparency for everything Lumo.

    What models get used for the answer, what server did handle my input/output. For the server it would be good to know which location.

    If asked directly I need Lumo to be honest about its own architecture and what model is used.

    Also more openeness about decision making. Like honesty about what pieces of information came from training data and what came from a websearch. I had instances of specifics after Lumo did a websearch that were clearly not taken from any of the shown webresults and so must come from training data or hallucination.

    Also generally I would prefer fully open source models being used.

    As privacy is a main concern for most of your users I wish for more transparency for everything Lumo.

    What models get used for the answer, what server did handle my input/output. For the server it would be good to know which location.

    If asked directly I need Lumo to be honest about its own architecture and what model is used.

    Also more openeness about decision making. Like honesty about what pieces of information came from training data and what came from a websearch. I had instances of specifics after Lumo did a websearch that were clearly not taken from… more

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15. Lumo "lite" tier for Unlimited, Duo and Family subscribers

    While I get the cost of hosting an LLM and a separate plan for unlimited usage is totally fair, I do think paying customers, especially subscribers to the so-called unlimited plans, should get a little special treatment with a tier of Lumo exclusive to these plans.

    Perhaps instead of the 10/day and 200/month prompt limit, 1 project limit and 7 day history that Lumo Free provides, this new Lumo Lite could give us 50/day, 500/month, 2 projects and unlimited history (we already have 500 GB of storage so Lumo message storage should be negligible).

    All the other features like unlimited prompts, projects and advanced AI models could be reserved for the Plus plan for those who need it, but having it easier to integrate in an existing 2 year plan, with appropriate discounts would be nice. Currently, upgrading to Lumo Plus while having Proton Unlimited, downgrades me to a 1 year plan for both, forcing me to pay more for Proton Unlimited as well.

    While I get the cost of hosting an LLM and a separate plan for unlimited usage is totally fair, I do think paying customers, especially subscribers to the so-called unlimited plans, should get a little special treatment with a tier of Lumo exclusive to these plans.

    Perhaps instead of the 10/day and 200/month prompt limit, 1 project limit and 7 day history that Lumo Free provides, this new Lumo Lite could give us 50/day, 500/month, 2 projects and unlimited history (we already have 500 GB of storage so Lumo message storage should be negligible).

    All the other features like unlimited… more

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16. Make lumo fully open source

    I asked the cat if it's open source. It gave all the wrong answers.

    Either make Lumo fully open source very soon, or set a roadmap to achieve that and share it with everyone. Privacy is great, but Proton, without open sourcing everything you do, you are missing the point of what you represent. Do better.

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17. Lumo - think before you write

    Recently Lumo has started interrupting itself mid-answer saying "Wait..." then correcting, sometimes totally negating, the part of the answer it already gave you, which you may have spent time reading and digesting which then becomes a total waste of your time.
    
    Have Lumo not start writing until it has its total best answer. It's plenty fast enough and now that you're displaying its "thinking" process we're not worried that it's stalled.
    Or if you prefer, make this a checkbox we can choose, or a retained setting if we're signed in.

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18. There should be a way to turn off the cat avatar

    I would love to use Lumo, but can not because of the annoying cat avatar. Lumo says it could be turned off, but gives misleading instructions how to do it. For example the Settings menus are very different what Lumo desribes and what I actually see.

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19. Proper Lumo mobile apps

    Lumo needs a proper app. Every other Proton app is designed to integrate into their respective systems, but Proton Lumo is just a web app, and it works just as well as any web app, which means not as well as it should. Lumo needs more love in this department, a proper mobile app.

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20. Add support for de-googled devices

    Lumo is unsupported without Google Play Services. Can't start the application, blocked during boot.
    Using LineageOS. Should work without Google.

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