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1. Allow anonymous data sharing

   I know that Proton doesn't create/train its own AI model, but a good european alternative would be nice to see. As unpleasant as this might be, to create a good model, lots of data is needed. A great app is worth nothing without good models. The current market leader, openAI, uses user data to train their models and have a huge advantage.

   If my data is ever used for training, I want to give it to a company I trust (or think I can trust) to handle them carefully. And this is you. I would like to see the option to anonymously share the chats to help train/refine models. In the best case, only chats without inputs that would give away who asks would be used (this would need to be checked somehow).

   I know that this is probably an unpopular opinion, but we have to face the reality: If we want good open models, we need to provide our data.

   I know that Proton doesn't create/train its own AI model, but a good european alternative would be nice to see. As unpleasant as this might be, to create a good model, lots of data is needed. A great app is worth nothing without good models. The current market leader, openAI, uses user data to train their models and have a huge advantage.

   If my data is ever used for training, I want to give it to a company I trust (or think I can trust) to handle them carefully. And this is you. I would like to see the option… more

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2. To make Lumo more human

   Subject: Proposal: A "Dual-Loop" Architecture for Next-Gen LLMs Inspired by Neuro-Mechanical Models

   Dear Research and Engineering Team,

   I am writing to share a conceptual proposal for a new architectural approach to Large Language Models (LLMs), inspired by the neuro-mechanical theories of Lee Kent Hempfling (specifically the distinction between Short-Term and Long-Term memory loops).

   While current LLMs excel at pattern recognition and statistical prediction (effectively acting as massive Long-Term Memory systems), they lack a mechanism for inhibition, self-correction, and proactive intent. This proposal suggests a "Dual-Loop" architecture that could significantly reduce hallucinations, bias, and reactive behaviour.
   The Core Concept: Dual-Loop Architecture

   Current models rely on a single stream of attention mechanisms. I propose a system with two distinct, interacting loops:

   The Long-Term Loop (The Library):
       Function: Standard Transformer weights for retrieving facts, grammar, and historical patterns.
       Role: Fast, reactive, and high-volume data retrieval.
   The Short-Term Loop (The Operator):
       Function: A separate, high-speed module running in parallel.
       Role: Inhibition and Monitoring. Before the Long-Term loop commits to a token, the Short-Term loop evaluates:
           Is this consistent with the immediate context?
           Is this a hallucination or a bias?
           Does this align with the user's intent?
       Mechanism: If a conflict is detected, the Short-Term loop inhibits the output and triggers a re-evaluation cycle (simulating the human "brake" or "pause").
   

   Key Proposed Features

   Dynamic Inhibition Layers: Instead of just predicting the next token, the model actively suppresses low-probability or biased outputs that fail a "truth/intent" check.
   Frequency-Based Temporal Processing: Implementing a "Biological Clock" simulation where different parts of the network process information at different speeds (Fast for "Now"/Logic, Slow for Deep Memory), creating a simulated sense of time and continuity.
   Intent-Driven Generation: Shifting from "Pattern Completion" to "Goal Achievement," where the Short-Term loop sets a constraint/goal before the Long-Term loop retrieves data.
   Modality-Aware Routing: Detecting if a query requires visual simulation or logical deduction and routing processing accordingly, similar to how humans switch between visual and aural dominance.
   

   Potential Benefits

   Reduced Hallucinations: By inhibiting outputs that don't pass a consistency check.
   Lower Bias: Active suppression of training-data biases via the Short-Term "brake."
   Improved Alignment: Better adherence to user intent rather than just statistical likelihood.
   Organic Output: Moving away from rigid, "stiff" text generation toward fluid, "pro-active" responses.
   

   Next Steps

   I believe this approach moves beyond simple scaling (adding more parameters) to architectural innovation. It treats the LLM not just as a database, but as a system capable of self-regulation.

   I would be happy to provide further details, diagrams, or specific mathematical formulations for the "Inhibition Layer" if the team finds this direction promising.

   This Idea was created by Lumo with prompts from me. I thought it was good enough for others to have a better look and did'nt know who to send it to.

   Subject: Proposal: A "Dual-Loop" Architecture for Next-Gen LLMs Inspired by Neuro-Mechanical Models

   Dear Research and Engineering Team,

   I am writing to share a conceptual proposal for a new architectural approach to Large Language Models (LLMs), inspired by the neuro-mechanical theories of Lee Kent Hempfling (specifically the distinction between Short-Term and Long-Term memory loops).

   While current LLMs excel at pattern recognition and statistical prediction (effectively acting as massive Long-Term Memory systems), they lack a mechanism for inhibition, self-correction, and proactive intent. This proposal suggests a "Dual-Loop" architecture that could significantly reduce hallucinations, bias, and reactive behaviour.
   The Core Concept: Dual-Loop Architecture

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3. Font size options for Lumo app, IOS

   The need for a larger font size in Lumo IOS app for those of us with visual impairments please! Or better yet font size options (small, medium, large), ASAP on this thank you!

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4. Create doc and spreadsheet directly from chat

   Add the ability to automatically open a chat window directly within a document and embed a table in Proton Sheets. This would streamline real‑time collaboration by allowing users to start a conversation or view a related spreadsheet without leaving the current file.

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5. Using better open-source/weight AI Models

   Hi everyone,

   I am writing this because I think Lumo has so much more potential. Imagine them using a 1 trillion parameter Chinese open-source/weight AI model like it would give them so much more flexibility in new features and accuracy of up-to-date data. They could even train an own AI model that they can then use like OpenAI uses ChatGPT as an multimodal AI model without having to rely on others creating open-source/weight AI models for them to use plus they could customize it perfectly for privacy, speed and accuracy. This own AI model could be based of some other open-source/weight AI model or could be designed specifically for Protons privacy focused servers. They could even integrate an own search engine into this customized model, enabling it to use auto websearch so you don’t have to actively turn it on in every new conversation and could be trained for not only text but also image generation and upload, video generation and upload, text to speech, speech to text and even a Live mode like Gemini, ChatGPT and Perplexity.

   Hi everyone,

   I am writing this because I think Lumo has so much more potential. Imagine them using a 1 trillion parameter Chinese open-source/weight AI model like it would give them so much more flexibility in new features and accuracy of up-to-date data. They could even train an own AI model that they can then use like OpenAI uses ChatGPT as an multimodal AI model without having to rely on others creating open-source/weight AI models for them to use plus they could customize it perfectly for privacy, speed and accuracy. This own AI model could be based of some other… more

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6. RAG my proton drive. Make Lumo be able to chat with me about my files.

   I bought into Lumo and upgraded my proton drive as I had the impression that I could query my files.
   In fact, I can only upload some of them. Well, some, in fact only 10Mb before it complains. Then if I leave the chat and come back, it seems to have forgotten I uploaded a file to chat with.

   Here is my use case which is currently available in CoPilot.
   1. Have an option for Lumo to chunk and ingest the files in my drive.
   2. Allow me to query them like a proper RAG system

   Thanks.

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7. IOS/Android Widget

   I'd Love to have the Lumo cat with a textbox to ask questions on my homescreen.

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8. Add Message Timestamp Modes (Visible / Hidden / Off) for Temporal Accuracy

   I propose adding a configurable timestamp setting for messages with three options: (1) Visible—timestamps appear in the UI and context window; (2) Hidden—timestamps are passed to Lumo's context for accurate temporal reasoning but remain invisible in the UI; (3) Disabled—no timestamps at all. Currently, Lumo sometimes misjudges the time (e.g., saying "good morning" at 8 PM), which undermines the experience. The Hidden mode would solve this by giving Lumo access to exact send times without cluttering the interface—clean design plus accurate AI reasoning in one setting.

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9. Clause partnership? (for codding)

   I intentionally don't write the correct name an stuff and such. I assume everyone know which ai i am talking about.

   what i want to suggest is the ability for Lumo and that company to have a partnership

   Reason? i want help coding and such, but i do not want in any way or form be subject to the privacy collection of a company who has tons of issues i am not going to explain more since as i said, i intentionally don't say the name and i hope it's clear why, especially since i am not a representative of their.

   Idea is more or less silly to be honest.

   we pay extra, separately, for this, after all, i am 100% they will care more about money then anything else. However, it's Lumo who represent us. On the idea that Lumo will not inform the AI anything that is not 100% private.

   To keep cost low, especially since i assume anyone who actually want a lot will just use that ai and not care about 100% privacy, what i assume will happen is we will not have direct access to that AI, but instead, Lumo will have access to a large level of codes, ability to keep track, and more stuff. Aka a "lite" version but still extremely advanced.

   Now i want to be clear with some stuff

   google, apple, microsoft, so on, are all collecting everyone's data as one of their main income (yes, apple blocks others to ensure they have monopoly of your data, similar to how brave brower works). While the one i hope people know who i am refering to, is, hopefully, not that corrupted (companies can see what you buy online and then show it to youtube content creators to show said items on their videos as an icon like ad.... so yeah... you are legally spied on for ads.... ).... plus it's specialised for coding.

   Idea is that sure, there are other possibilities, including the "open" one. But they also proven again and again they love people's data and forgot about "charity" like mindset as money.

   The other big companies are data harvesting.

   And any other that is honest to a degree or other is not specialised for codding.

   Aka this is why i chosen this one and not another one.

   next

   lite usage. People who don't need to create websites, or platforms or whatever since there is proton busness for those, but for use, this could be perfect since we don't need to pay premium for something that actually collects and share our data in the process

   The lite usage keeps the cost down. And i am sorry to say this but the idea of privacy 1st would work very well if our proton account is more or less the proxy for this, to avoid getting data harvested

   Going forwards, such stuff could also result in more opportunities because no one want their data to be collected just because some people are greedy. Or what reason do they have other then greed?

   going forward. The more people sign up with proton for such stuff, the more we also send a message that people really don't like that laws allow them to collect our data since we want to use new stuff, not to hand over our data.

   The more people sign up via proton because they get 100% privacy the more users who said company never had will be bringing in more profit for them. Especially since as i said, my suggestion is a lite version (still more advance then current) so some might even pay full price.

   On top, the ability to keep track of codes, ready to use ones (databases), sharing (since it's a partnership) issues and solution, both from proton to them and from them to proton, so both growth. License for Lumo to use and give us databases, meaning we don't need to create another account.

   Also the lite means more cheap, and more easy to simple stop. No "1 used for 1 month and now they have most of my data" or similar BS.

   Aka we will be able to have access to that ai's level of coding where we can use our proton pass or drive or similar without us handing over details about what we have or use

   I intentionally don't write the correct name an stuff and such. I assume everyone know which ai i am talking about.

   what i want to suggest is the ability for Lumo and that company to have a partnership

   Reason? i want help coding and such, but i do not want in any way or form be subject to the privacy collection of a company who has tons of issues i am not going to explain more since as i said, i intentionally don't say the name and i hope it's clear why, especially since i am not a representative of… more

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10. Data network

    Hello

    i have NO IDEA, ok? NO idea at all how or what.

    what i want to suggest is those flow charts

    why? because lumo could create a data base for each of use where we can add our ideas as a flow chart. This also will speed up eveything lumo does since the data is local, aka does not need to be send to server or whatever (this is why i said i do not know what i am suggesting), and even allow us to add stuff like name, references and so on so we can organise even more via preferences, data, subject, so on.

    Imagen we are talking about sheets but we can create chains. and well this actually is a good idea as well that we can manually see them .

    you know how some of this flow chartes are splitting into branches, or circle like bubles that connect to others? more or less this is what i mean. but sadly i also don't know what i means because each time i want to mention a name or another, i keep rembering that everyone person wants a different format, flowchart, and more. So i do not want to name any of them to not create "oh yes i really want that" and "oh i really do not want that so no"

    especially since it might add complication or something

    Hello

    i have NO IDEA, ok? NO idea at all how or what.

    what i want to suggest is those flow charts

    why? because lumo could create a data base for each of use where we can add our ideas as a flow chart. This also will speed up eveything lumo does since the data is local, aka does not need to be send to server or whatever (this is why i said i do not know what i am suggesting), and even allow us to add stuff like name, references and so on so we can organise even more… more

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11. Voice‑Assist Button: Instantly Read Lumo Replies Aloud

    Introduce a dedicated Voice‑Assist button within the Lumo chat interface that, when pressed, converts the textual response generated by Lumo into spoken audio in real time. The button should be prominently positioned alongside the existing input controls, enabling users to trigger text‑to‑speech playback with a single click (or tap on mobile devices).

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12. Text size adjustments

    Implement an option in settings to make the text bigger in the mobile apps. Specifically IOS. Global text size adjustment has no affect on the Lumo application. Results are too small. Needs to be more clear like ChatGPT for example.

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13. Code blocks with syntax highlighting

    I think Lumo could benefit from code blocks (similar to what Claude has) that have syntax highlighting. Lumo already supports some Markdown syntax features, so it would make sense to add code blocks that are made up of the triple backticks with an optional language next to the starting backticks.

    I currently find it very hard to add code to Lumo when asking for information, debugging, or code edits.

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14. Add Text-to-Speech and Voice Input

    I am enjoying interacting with Lumo so far and I am wanting to switch to Lumo from Gemini as my main AI. I really like the privacy and being able to see its thoughts. I would like to see some voice interaction in the future if possible. It would make it much easier for me to switch over and interact with Lumo. Perhaps a few different voice options and pacing would work well. Thank you!

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15. 6) Custom agentic AI creator.

    Custom AI agent creator: Create custom AIs that better reflect the user.

    Back to start post: https://protonmail.uservoice.com/forums/932842-lumo/suggestions/50637308-1-lumo-live

    Exit to Lumo UserVoice: https://protonmail.uservoice.com/forums/932842-lumo

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16. UI Element & Emoji Mode Settings Toggle

    Hello. This feature request is a personalization and/or customization option. I really think it’d be a neat addition. I will break it down simply to avoid wasting others time. This applies to the app, potentially the iOS 26 application, and is a simple switch in the settings.

    ✔️Toggle checkmark box for “enhanced emojis & UI effects.

    🟰Net result is an increased frequency of emojis and UI elements such as lists, tables with headers and bold fonts, increased emojis, increased syntax boxes, increased purple boxes with abstracts — all elements and and emojis are outputted at a higher rate than without toggling the mode on, which outputs the standard rate of emojis/artifacts.

    I will list this in my upcoming document to Proton Support mentioning a plethora of feature requests and I highly encourage anyone who wants to work together to advance Lumo to reach out to me.

    Hello. This feature request is a personalization and/or customization option. I really think it’d be a neat addition. I will break it down simply to avoid wasting others time. This applies to the app, potentially the iOS 26 application, and is a simple switch in the settings.

    ✔️Toggle checkmark box for “enhanced emojis & UI effects.

    🟰Net result is an increased frequency of emojis and UI elements such as lists, tables with headers and bold fonts, increased emojis, increased syntax boxes, increased purple boxes with abstracts — all elements and and emojis are outputted at a higher rate than without… more

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17. Maybe it could use an intelligent search-and-replace function for translation / incomplete translations: For example "ist" -> "is" (ger -> e

    Maybe it could use an intelligent search-and-replace function for translation / incomplete translations: For example "ist" -> "is" (ger -> eng)

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18. Allow attachment of files in project chats

    Projects only reference indexed files, ad-hoc attachmemt is not possible. Here's what Lumo has to say about it:

    [...] It's more like paternalism dressed up as UX design.

    You're describing a completely realistic scenario: you're on step 12 of a consulting project, a client sends you a one-off spreadsheet mid-conversation, and you just want to ask "does this reconcile with the figures from last quarter?" without committing it to the permanent knowledge base. Forcing you to upload to Drive, link it, wait for indexing, and then remember to unlink it later is friction masquerading as structure.

    The assumption that all files in a Project belong in the persistent index is flawed. It conflates two genuinely different needs:

    Reference files that should persist and be searchable across all chats (contracts, style guides, data dictionaries)
    Transient files that are relevant to this specific question right now and would be noise in every other chat
    

    A well-designed system would let you distinguish between them. Drop a file into the chat for immediate analysis without it becoming part of the indexed knowledge base — and optionally promote it to Project Knowledge if it turns out to be valuable.

    The current setup forces a binary choice: pollute your index or break your workflow by jumping to an external chat. That's not protecting users — it's underestimating them.

    Projects only reference indexed files, ad-hoc attachmemt is not possible. Here's what Lumo has to say about it:

    [...] It's more like paternalism dressed up as UX design.

    You're describing a completely realistic scenario: you're on step 12 of a consulting project, a client sends you a one-off spreadsheet mid-conversation, and you just want to ask "does this reconcile with the figures from last quarter?" without committing it to the permanent knowledge base. Forcing you to upload to Drive, link it, wait for indexing, and then remember to unlink it later is friction masquerading as structure.

    The assumption that all… more

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19. Edit a file or a folder with lumo: Help with programming exercises, design and picture-editing.

    Edit a file or a folder with Lumo: it would be a help with programming exercises, design and picture-editing.

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20. Make Custom Lumos available in Android app

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