This is critical because I am using a phone without google. I want to escape their constant monitoring of devices. We know communications are encrypted, but metadata to my device still paints a picture. Other apps have solutions.

I agree Google is a pernicious influence I use Duck duck for my searches is that ok?). Remember that social media platforms are also extremely aggressive in collecting your personal info. Whats even worse is when your contacts with other people are also logged as links. this intrusive concept just outrages me. it gives power to orgs like Cambridge Analytica to influence elections etc.

For those who read this and came to the conclusion that Proton is "using Google", it's my understanding that this post is simply referring to importing data from an old gmail account into Proton. The concern was that this links your new Proton account to your old Google account in their records, which is realistic in my opinion.

This doesn't mean that Proton is relying on Google for any functionality. That's just an onboarding shortcut.

It may be better to have good guides on how to manually export data from Google, and import it into Proton.

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This is extremely critical - Please continue towards self-reliance as your business model.
Full F-Droid support for all Proton applications Android users, Basic IOS support i.e., ProtonMail, VPN and Calendar (At least have a two way sync calendar.)
With these BARE minimum requirements you will retain life long Paid Proton user(s); I should not speak for others; that will encourage others around to pursue the same, while not being the product.

I couldn’t Agree more! I came here to remove myself and family from corporate Google..

Honestly, I've used Google for over a decade and had them lose files from Google Drive, send me through toll booths despite me clarifying otherwise (up to six times in one drive!) with Google Maps... If I wanted Google Mail, why would I want to utilize Google services on another provider? I was honestly thinking about giving ProtonMail money for my household to get good email addresses, but now I'm thinking otherwise... Everyone talks about their security, but you can't put all your eggs in one nest and expect to count them the same in the future..! The bigger you are, the more people target you. Nevermind that utilizing your competition leaves you vulnerable if they decide to try and make a morally unacceptable manuever. I cannot express enough how disappointed I am to look around, specifically for Google free alternatives, just to find out they still use Google...

Signal, for example, uses Play Services for push notifications but has a fallback if they are not present on the device.

It is common for apps not to handle a lack of Google Play Services gracefully; however, please consider the demographic. I switched to a custom, privacy-respecting ROM around the same time I moved everything out of Google to Proton parallels. I'm sure plenty of people fleeing from Google to ProtonMail also sport play-services-free Android ROMs.

As is, I feel the need to constantly keep checking ProtonMail on my phone and occasionally miss important emails that come in only to find them much later. This feature really is a must-have.

9 comments from Anonymous users, and some duplicate comments from Anonymous and logged in users. All within a few hours. Nice attempt at uplifting your own post with fake accounts.

What does it mean? Proton using Google services?! What a fuck?!

What does it mean? Proton using Google services?! What a fuck?!

Will it be any changes?

That’s really sucks.

The new bottom every time. Today it is using Google. Yesterday it was new policy to delete inactive accounts. What the scrap will make proton team tomorrow?

The new bottom every time. Today it is using Google. Yesterday it was new policy to delete inactive accounts. What the scrap will make proton team tomorrow?

Stop the evil! Remove google!!

Get rid of Google!!!!

Fuck Google! Toss it away!!!

They are using Google? So it is no privacy here…

Really dumb choice. They shouldn’t use anything from companies like Google. It is evil corporations.