Proton Browser
Proton Browser
I would Like to see a Browser like chrome, firefox, or Brave. But without the tracking and also it being based in the same location as protonmail would mean its secure and safe to use.
With companys like google buying up all the alternative browsers I think this a needed program/app. What good is the secure email when Chrome is snap shoting and keylogging your protonmail logins.
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Anonymous
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Chrome does not keylog your logins. It’s also by far the most secure browser since each tab runs with very few system privileges.
But you can use Firefox, if you like. -
Noah Ertz
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While I do understand the viewpoint (and somewhat lean towards that viewpoint myself) of the commenters who say that creating a "Proton Browser" is basically trying to reinvent another "privacy wheel", it will be ultimately Protonmail's decision. I believe it is beneficial to have a variety of ideas recorded for later use no matter if people say they are "good" or "bad"; nonetheless, a "Proton Browser" is something that should be avoided for a long while as the developers of ProtonMail have so many other features and optimizations they need to make for this email service before they would ever consider expanding to other territories. One thing to note is that plenty of people have switched to other services, software, etc. to not become completely dependent on using Google for everything (there's a lot of risk when being reliant and giving information away to a single company through the use of its popular software). Maybe it is best to not rely on one company to give all of the software you use, no matter what their intentions are. Do we really need ProtonMail to become another Google? I don't mean they would have malicious intentions and start making unethical decisions; but even if they became "The Ethical Google," it's unlikely that most of the people using ProtonMail will use all of their other services. It would probably be better for ProtonMail to just be an email service. By focusing on being a great email service, they won't need to make so many sacrifices to make up for other services. The same goes for other companies making different kinds of software. When a company puts all of its efforts into making a single type (and occasionally a few types that go along together is okay as well) of software with a special focus, one can expect that this piece of software will appeal to a certain market. The company can focus their efforts to appeal to that market; and if all goes well, a great piece of software for specific purposes is created and enjoyed. For ProtonMail, there could be other things they could expand to, like have a cloud storage as it would easily tie in with the email service (the cloud service would store email files as Google Drive stores Gmail files). Overall, a "Proton Browser" would probably be better left with some other company to make, but it doesn't mean that ProtonMail won't surprise us one day and give us a Proton Browser that nobody expected could exist. If they were to do this, I would suggest for the browser to have a specific purpose without ending up becoming another Google Chrome or FireFox attached with a "We Love Privacy and Security!" slogan. Perhaps a browser that focuses on encryption, simplicity, and speed (maybe a different kind of Lynx (but not as clone, of course)).
I noticed that you said that you didn't like how Google "snapshots and keylogs our protonmail logins." Maybe instead of a browser, why not a standalone application for ProtonMail? I don't mean having a Bridge, but an actual application solely for its own service. Another suggestion is to make an alternative to Thunderbird with a special focus on Protonmail's internal encryption (perhaps it would work better with the internal encryption and become much faster, more reliable, more optimized, and cleaner without the need for a lot fo addons that end up making Thunderbird cluttered and buggy). Mozilla has lost some respect from some its users, and ProtonMail users have suggested that the developers should be careful with creating a Bridge as they would rather sacrifice having IMAP, POP3, etc. support than to sacrifice security and privacy. Maybe this would be a better long-term solution.
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Anonymous
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What to clone browsers, most use Google Chrome and do not want to hear anything else. You can create anything, but it will be to anyone, this is a question
Что клонировать браузеры, большинство пользуется гугл хром и не хотят слышать больше ни о чем.Создать можно что угодно, но будет это кому надо, это вопрос
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trymeout
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There already many alternatives browsers out there. Brave is probably the best one so far and is only getting better with the new features.
Also if Proton Browser becomes a thing it may cost money to use which I don't blame ProtonMail for charging users to use it browser but don't expect this to be free.
And a huge debate over it is what engine the browser will use, Firefox engine, Chromium engine or make its own. And to make your own engine for a web browser is a lot of work and needs to always be tweaked since it will need to be up to date with all the newest HTML, CSS & JavaScript code.
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Remy Rojas
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If Protonmail would go for a browser it needs the following to buy me:
- Run on Linux/Docker
- NoScript option
- Plugin dev options
- OSSI would also gladly let them mine crypto on the browser as a way to pay back while running
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B.D
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This thread proves asking the public is not always a good idea. If Henry Ford had asked people what they wanted/needed, they'd have answered "faster horses".
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Tasch
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Hi, I'm not a techie but what I take from this is people are wanting another search engine that does not track. If this is the case, Protonmail might consider looking into GoodGopher.com an untracked search engine. I think it was set up by the Natural News guy.
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Robert Anderson
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The proton team is brilliant and I simply don't trust even the"secure" browsers and if you used some skeleton springboard, this would become a requirement for those of us who see the tracking of our activities racing up behind us. The world has become so transparent as to make us naked for anyone who really wants to know. This is a dangerous trend that is out of control. TOR is the default, I know, but we need a rabbit, not a turtle. I trust the proton team, and spread the word to everyone I talk to.
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Alph
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Bad idea, Firefox and Tor Browser are already excellent.
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ivan
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no support. there are plenty of firefox derivatives that focus on privacy and security, also a few chromium and safari derivatives. we do not need another.
try k-meleon or pale moon or midori or one of many others.
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[Deleted User]
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Firefox team is working different ways to improve privacy and security. They are steady and active. On the other hand, we also have Tor browser. So, I think it's better for ProtonMail to focus on E-Mail, Contacts, Calendar, Chat and mainly Cloud Drive.
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pnobulls
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Amen! their is many browswers out their and I have not been impress, I wished they would build one, if they do I have many ideas to imput things to make it safe and secure and clean of crap.
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M.E.
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Didn't see it mentioned, but what about a stand-alone email app, like in the old days? Even build it in java so it runs everywhere. Or it could even be like a miniature browser built upon some open-source browser code that only connects to protonmail, so all data is kept on the cloud: no need for data sync.
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Anonymous
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if this was a thing, id ditch chrome in an instant!
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lolman
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Browsers are very large pieces of software. But perhaps it's possible to make one all about security that lacks some other features like video playback, tabs, history, devtools, addons... All of these things are non-essential.
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EZ
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Definitely a great idea. Does anyone use duckduckgo.com?
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Anonymous
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Great idea.
We need a browser that TAKES NO POLITICAL SIDE.
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Anonymous
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I agree that a VPN is not really sufficient to ensure privacy - Google et al still can follow you from crumbs left in your browser etc. The Tor browser is fine but a bit slow ... I think designing a new browser from scratch might be a bit of a resource hog for you tho - maybe joining forces with Vivaldi might make more sense.
In the meantime some guidelines on how to make try and keep as much privacy as possible with the current tools would be welcome.
One way could be to use different browsers or computers for different types of activities .. or another to obfuscate the spying by searching for absolutely anything ... so a randomizer search .. -
lonestar007
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@ Christopher Dalton - Well stated. I agree wholeheartedly.
4 those who disagree - remember that the NSA is still collecting and storing all data traffic within the U.S. and anywhere else they have tentacles. Remember Edward Snowden?
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Anonymous
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There are a lot of private browsers out there such as TOR however most of them are slow (yes I know it always will be due to it's privacy browsing functions and ip re routing) I think it's a good idea for protnmail to invest in brwoser idea. The privacy browsers out there are lacking inovation, features , Speed could be improved, most look ugly and some of them is questionable in privacy claims. I think there is a place for proton browser in the market and if they play they cards right it could become a big player in the future.