> If you don't like them, just don't use them!

Generally, that's not the case with AI. The requirement to suck up data for training sets is overwhelming, and shown by many examples over the last couple of years.

Unless Proton controls the ENTIRE AI pipeline, there's no reason to trust it, and maybe not even then.

MODERATORS: "Three year olds can understand this" is obviously abusive. Do you support this?

If you don't like them, just don't use them! It's that simple. Three year olds can understand this. If you can't, I'm sorry. Your basic understanding is nothing better than that. And there is even a button to turn off Proton Scribe.

100%! Less ai.

That would be fantastic! I do need efficient, private, secure and reliable productivity services. I do not want or need LLMs from Proton and the Scribe buttons in Mail are taking up valuable space.

A simple one opt-out toggle would be a great user experience (or even better: opt-in ;) ) to get rid off any LLM stuff from my account.

I just now opened a paid proton account specifically to escape from AI. That includes not having stupid sparkly magic wand logos everywhere and unwanted “click me for amazing AI!” buttons. I’m immediately cancelling because of this. I’m so disappointed. Thanks, proton, for wasting my time.

Regarding privacy:

The two are contradictory. You should assume that ANY interaction you have with an AI is captured and fed into its training set.

This. And you better not raise prices to cover the cost of this junk.

People at Proton, why on earth would you even consider using "AI" for anything? What's wrong with you? And why are your prices in... USian dollars? Aren't you supposed to be based in Switzerland? How did either of those ideas ever pop into someone's mind?

I agree, this is a very important issue. Personally, even after trying out Lumo, I was so incredibly unimpressed that I just quit using it. Projects, management, deduction, even enhanced searching and summarizing; it failed every single test. This is not a surprise, however, as legitimate AI has not been publicly created yet, but it's still a nail in the coffin for what is effectively a data siphon.

Around the world government & big-tech are doing a lot of privacy invasion. From the UK scanning your face to visit websites, to Google finger-printing your browser regardless of being logged in.
People are turning to privacy tools hard-core, & A.I. is the big reg-flag at the centre of this.

When using a VPN with privacy tools like Proton, I definitely want to feel like I am being protected & having AI, even if my understanding of how its used is wrong, is a worry.

I am fully onboard with team no-AI, but one thing to keep in mind is that "AI" is a marketing term for a ****** agglomeration of LLMs, image and sound generators, and so forth. Ironically video games badly need to catch up on actual AI but are just making slop games.

With the advent of Synthetic Stupidity, greedy corporations no longer have to even design or produce anything, they just "borrow" it from the recesses of the Internet and then profit! Gatekeeping stolen resources and selling em back to us, truly peak capitalism

Many of us chose Proton *because* of the perceived privacy benefits. Inclusion of AI destroys that goal and trust with the users.

Users depend on Proton for things like this. Please give us a simple opt-out feature, like a toggle on or off. Not all of us are sophisticated users.

Really AI is not needed for email/Calendar/drive. I'd rather they just focus on developing their core products that I actually want than more AI that I constantly uninstall every time another corp pushes it on me.

I agree with the OP. An option to disable anything AI-related everywhere would be fantastic.

Don't alllow AI to touch my data, including optimizing email composition and "managing" my inbox (like adding labels, moving my mail to directories, etc.). Spam seems to be fine. Leave it there.

1) My workflow is my workflow. Don't **** around with it by adding labels, "helpful suggestions," moving it, etc.

2) I can't trust AI not to suck down my mail for training sets, and that very much includes whatever AI software or service you purchased.

3) Once you allow AI to touch my email, no matter your good intentions, you've given state actors power to adopt your AI functionality to their purposes. Don't (and please don't tell me you left Switzerland exactly to enable this).

I'm a power user. I don't want to be a disempowered user. Please keep AI slop as far away from me as possible, and especially not in UI/UX I use on a daily, sometimes hourly basis.

Just noticed auto-generated labels in the Android PM client. I have a very thorough filter setup that puts emails where I want them. I do not want additional labels I do not control. Please allow me to disappear these -- which might be accomplished by this global option.

I absolutely do not want AI tools to "help" me while I'm trying to work. If I want to use AI I will go use one of the other widely available tools. Please allow me to opt out of all AI integrations across proton.

I am an AI superuser and I agree with this sentiment. I hate the forced integrations and implementations such as Gemini, Copilot, and Samsung AI. Not only are they intrusive and un-uninstallable for the most part, they also annoy advanced users because of how unusably low-quality they are in comparison to dedicated frontier models (in addition to being involuntary).

I have used Lumo in the free tier for a bit and I would welcome more features such as setting it as my default assistant on Android, Windows, or Firefox (like you can with ChatGPT). But I want to stress that this should be strictly voluntary and not baked-in with other apps like a lot of other Artificial "Intelligence" "features."

Saw the Lumo announcement and am also reconsidering my move to Proton. I switched to this platform to get away from this stuff. Shame.