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      • Anonymous commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

        I’m currently testing the wireguard iOS app made aviable through TestFlight.
        I have set up my own vpn server for the purpose.
        From a usability perspective, it beats IKEv2, which in turn is vastly superior in terms of speed and connection latency to openvpn.
        Actually, with Wireguard, you don’t even notice you’re using a VPN.
        Wireguard is over the top, depite using a test version of Wireguard for IOS

      • Anonymous commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

        All arguments aside, from my personal experience Wireguard is so much faster than OpenVPN that I'd love to have this option available.

      • JeGr commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

        While having the latest and greatest in technology is always fun, I consider it really optional at this point. It's much like all things coming up now with fancy new ways based on blockchaining. No it isn't the holy grail to "blockchain everything". Neither ist Wireguard at this point. Sure, the tech is promising and might be fast as a lightning bolt (for you) but their own(!) website has a big fat message reading:

        WireGuard is not yet complete. You should not rely on this code. It has not undergone proper degrees of security auditing and the protocol is still subject to change. We're working toward a stable 1.0 release, but that time has not yet come(!) There are experimental(!) snapshots (...) but these should not be considered(!) real(!) releases and they may contain security vulnerabilities(!!) (which would not be eligible for CVEs, since this is pre-release snapshot software). If you are packaging WireGuard, you must keep up to date with the snapshots(!)

        So long story short: this makes no sense right now besides binding resources to alpha-grade software to follow even the slightest releases to avoid missing a security related bugfix etc. etc.
        I'm all for including it with a (more) stable version, but until that it is alpha-grade software and a big testing ground, indifferent what other VPN providers may do and prematurely jumping the hype-train. Solid implementation does more for me than being the first to have access to some sweet that is just half-baked at its current state.

      • RainmakerRaw commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

        As it's coming up to Black Friday/Cyber Monday I was hoping to add a couple of years' ProtonVPN to my little collection of trusted VPN services.Unfortunately no WireGuard is a killer for me, as it's so much lighter, faster and easier to use cross-platform compared to IPSEC or the old, bloated single-threaded openvpn. I added my votes but I guess I'll be waiting a year to check back with you again. I know from Reddit that Jason Donenfeld himself (WireGuard 'inventor' and chief coder) has offered to help with your implementation, as he did for Mullvad and AzireVPN, both of whom now run it commercially, successfully. I know you cited authentication difficulties but when the guy who literally invented the thing offers his help...?

      • Thanasis commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

        WireGuard has a great future ahead.But intil it is finished and audited is not really safe.So it's best to stick with OpenVPN which is both finished and audited.The only alternative,which is not as safe as OpenVPN is IKEv2/IPSec.

      • t. commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

        Yes, it would be a great idea to offer Wireguard.

        Instead of being good little sheep and following the herd, you could be leaders and pioneers in a VPN revolution.

        P.S.: I use Wireguard for free, offered by AzireVPN.

      • Jay commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

        This would be incredible, I use WireGuard myself with Mullvad and I'm a long time customer of their service but it would be nice to see ProtonVPN adopt this as well.

      • Anonymous commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

        Wireguard is the future of VPN protocols
        Open sourced, best cryptographic cyphers, only 4.000 lines of code and faster than other protocols.
        quote from the Wireguard website:
        "WireGuard® is an extremely simple yet fast and modern VPN that utilizes state-of-the-art cryptography. It aims to be faster, simpler, leaner, and more useful than IPSec, while avoiding the massive headache. It intends to be considerably more performant than OpenVPN. WireGuard is designed as a general purpose VPN for running on embedded interfaces and super computers alike, fit for many different circumstances. Initially released for the Linux kernel, it is now cross-platform and widely deployable. It is currently under heavy development, but already it might be regarded as the most secure, easiest to use, and simplest VPN solution in the industry."

      • pnobulls commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

        their is many vpn tool out their, it would be cool if they supported them, but the many question is how secure are they.

      • LUH3417 commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

        I'm not familiar with the protocol. But I can say that the OpenVPN app does tend to use quite a bit of battery power to maintain an active connection.

      • Anonymous commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

        The protocol is the best in term of security and auditability about 4k lines of code compared to OpenVPN that consists of around 120k lines of code.
        Moreover, the protocol is the best in term of speed and battery usage since it is multithread with support to SSSE3, AVX, AVX2, AVX512, and NEON-accelerated implementations of its ciphers.
        Finally, the protocol is good for mobile phones because since it was developed as a “stealth VPN,” by default not sending any packets unless there is actual data to be sent. This has the effect of not draining the battery like other VPN clients commonly do.

        https://www.xda-developers.com/wireguard-vpn-project-support-android-roms/
        https://www.wireguard.com/performance/

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