Sync contacts with phone address book
Sync the Protonmail contacts with the phone address book (contacts app) and vice versa.
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Daniel commented
I would already be happy with just syncing names and phone numbers with my local address book. Data minimalism!
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trymeout commented
I understand why ProtonMail Devs are not for this and it is because they want to ensure our data is encrypted and secure weather its on their servers, in transit, and on our devices. Now if they allowed this features our contacts will not be encrypted on our phone making them vulnerable to other apps reading our contacts and if some customer used this feature and third party app got some contact info from their device which was also sycned with their protonmail account they may blame protonmail for failing to secure their contacts.
I think this feature still can be added it will be disabled by default and when enabled a warning message can appear warning the users that their contacts will sync to the phone address book but not be encrypted.
And for most people without this feature it kinda makes contacts useless. If I cannot sync my contacts to my phone so I know who is calling then I better stick with Etesync.
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Arthur commented
this would be nice indeed to have caldav and carddav
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The punisher commented
Annon just why have u been contacting my wife Cindy
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Aleano commented
Extremely important to be able to use the PM contact manager phone-wide or else sync it.
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Anonymous commented
Please find a way to sync contacts with mobile devices. As said, this will break the Google link completely.
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Emile Pesik commented
Perhaps ProtonMail could work together with the developer of EteSync (https://www.etesync.com/)? He already has achieved end-to-end encrypted synchronisation of _both_ contacts _and_ calendar data.
Synchronisation with Thunderbird is done via a similar idea to ProtonMail's IMAP bridge: a locally installed proxy (https://github.com/etesync/etesync-dav). It uses a locally installed CardDAV and CalDAV server (Radicale) with an EteSync storage plugin (https://github.com/etesync/radicale_storage_etesync).
Contacts are accessed in Thunderbird via the CardBook addon, a CardDAV based replacement for Thunderbird's own address book. Calendar data is accessed via CalDAV.
And for those using both ProtonMail and Gmail, CardBook can also synchronise with Google’s address book.
EteSync/EteSync-DAV, Radicale and CardBook are all open source.
Seems like all the hard work has already been done, so maybe the two sides should talk?
I've been using it for a few weeks and so far it works beautifully. It doesn't solve the problem of synced contacts in ProtonMail's web interface, but on Android and the desktop (Linux, macOS and Windows) it does. An iOS version is planned.
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[Deleted User] commented
good to see that this is planned, im planning to become a paid user soon!
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[Deleted User] commented
+1
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Jim commented
I was going to switch to proton mail until I learned they don't have contact syncing. Import/export is not a practical solution at all. If I add a new contact on my phone, I want that information available in my email client.
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Anonymous commented
This is a great idea. If protonmail had this, I'd switch over to it (the paid version) today.
> I suspect that the encryption on the contacts would prevent a normal CardDAV implementation from being possible.
Protonmail clearly doesn't use passwords to derive encryption keys for contacts (as they allow for password recovery), so they have the ability to encrypt/decrypt contacts on disk. A Carddav server would be technically feasible, and the spec is pretty straightforward.
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Anon commented
JohnyD, protonmail users don't have friends or they use gmail for contact sync :))
seriously now, cardDAV is basic stuff these days, make it happen pls...
and for the 'encrypt everything' dudes, don't enable! -
JohnyD commented
Come on people, not only 1% of you have Trump in your contacts so this feature is a must without encryption! It is like a staple. You want too much stuff encrypted, it is just paranoia that breaks usability!
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Anonymous commented
Is it not included in this topic ?
https://protonmail.uservoice.com/forums/284483-feedback/suggestions/31691812-contacts-calendars-and-notes -
Anonymous commented
This is for me the ONLY thing that is keeping me away - if i move from gmail or other, how do I know who is calling me without contacts synced with the phone? I don't understand why other features are voted more, don't people have real friends with telephone numbers? :)
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JohnD commented
If I can't call anyone because the contacts are not synced with iPhone, than keeping contacts @gmail, e-mail @protonmail and storrage @synology is a messy option.
CardDAV (as well as CalDAV) is a must!
And for real, contacts doesn't have to be encrypted.. we don't call NSA people or something.
Security is a great thing, to much security = lack of features/functionality = people don't switch.Like in my organization, forcing users to have a complex password every 3months and guess what? Full of yellow post-it pinned all over the desks :)
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Ray Kohler commented
I suspect that the encryption on the contacts would prevent a normal CardDAV implementation from being possible. What probably would work fine, and would solve the most common use case, would be to implement a (possibly bi-directional) syncing feature to the Android and iOS apps. That way, users could "push" their ProtonMail contacts into their phone's contact store.
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Post-Scriptum commented
With 3.12 we have a good contact manager, thanks a lot :D !
Know it just need a good sync ability for the app.
Maybe a way to replace standards contact phone manager by Protonmail ? Even with a separate app ? -
Anonymous commented
This would be a wonderful feature! One of the things I'm still considering before really changing my email service.
Currently, "synchronization" of contacts can be partially done.
1) General: vCard import/export was recently implemented (with encrypted contacts for paid members).
2) Mobile: the app already pulls contacts from phone
3) Desktop: Protonmail-Bridge would allow usage with a third party client with synchronized contacts.
Providing a server (*and a client*) for carddav would make the synchronization more well integrated.
Wtih carddav *client*, one could sync it with e.g. nextcloud. One loses protonmail's encryption, but it is a nice feature, and the mobile app already pulls contacts from somewhere.
With carddav *server*, I agree with the comment of Bryce McNab: implement it nicely so that other software (such as android and thunderbird) can retrieve the data!
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Kyle commented
The ability for Protonmail on Android to synchronize contacts with the contacts saved on your Android device. The lack of contact syncing is one of the only things keeping me reliant on Google, and it would be nice to have a privacy friendly alternative in this area as well.