SimpleLogin seamless integration for email alias reverse-alias usage
SimpleLogin works very well with Proton Mail, and it's great that this is now included in certain paid subscriptions, however there are some opportunities for a more seamless integration in the Proton Mail apps (Web and Mobile), in particular:
Receiving emails:
Option to show actual email address as sender instead of reverse-alias under "From" (i.e. use "X-Simplelogin-Envelope-From" email header where enabled instead of "From").Sending emails:
Option to select email alias as sender under "From" (in the same way as "real" addresses/mailboxes) and then use actual email addresses (rather than the reverse-aliases) under "To", and have Proton Mail automatically use (and generate if not yet created) the reverse-alias addresses for each of the recipients.Managing aliases:
Option to create a new alias from Proton Mail (i.e. under "Manage my addresses").
Essentially, the idea would be that when using the Proton Mail apps, one could use an email alias in exactly the same way as a "real" email address/mailbox, and have Proton Mail handle all the reverse-alias generation/substitution transparently to the end-user (at first glance, there would ideally still be some way of indicating that addresses have been substituted, perhaps with an icon next to the address that when clicked will show the reverse-alias that is actually used to send the email).
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Anonymous 1 commented
With Simplelogin we can send emails from aliases. But It is so tired to open Simplelogin and create aliases and copy reverse aliases every time I send the mail. So just integrate Simplelogin aliases to Protonmail directly and make options to send via Simplelogin aliases directly in email sending page.
+ The options have to contain either sending from an existing ailases or create a new aliases.
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rpo123 commented
This is the exact reason I signed up for ProtonMail, however, am using ProtonPass. Very disappointed! I left a service that allowed 25 alias that I could send email from for a downgrade of 15.
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[Deleted User] commented
This should be the core selling point of Proton Pass + Proton Mail combo. I'm suprised we cannot use this at all...
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Chief commented
This is what I signed-up to mention.
I hate that I have to choose between using `+alias`s (that I can actually reply with, but leak my email to anyone paying attention) and simplelogin aliases (that do a better job of hiding my email, but I can't reply with, so end up leaking my email if I need to every reply anyway).
If my aliases from Proton Pass were just options to use when sending email, that would be an amazing choice. (Maybe show them in "Identity and Addresses", with the other ones?)
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JIBJAB commented
Am using the SL extension in Brave so when replying to an SL aliased email from proton web it does indeed auto populate the "TO/Recipient" field with the SL reverse-alias address.
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Gonzalo Mena commented
Exactly, why give unlimited aliases through Proton Pass if it’s not easy to send an email from that alias from proton mail? For instance, I might have subscribed to a clothing store with an alias, and later decide to email them from given alias. It should be easier.
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JP commented
critical......
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Alex commented
Point 1 now seems to have been implemented somewhere between SimpleLogin and Proton Mail (I see in the headers that "From:" matches "X-Simplelogin-Original-From" containing the actual email address as sender, while "X-Pm-Original-From" has the reverse-alias) - thank you!
Point 2 next would be great - while responding to emails sent to an alias is simple enough, it's still a bit clunky to send a new email from an alias (need to look up the reverse-alias, and use the right mailbox to send from). Being able to select the alias as an email address under "From" when composing a message, then use the actual email addresses rather than having to look up reverse-aliases, would make using an alias as easy as a "real" email address/mailbox, and be a great selling point for Proton Mail / SimpleLogin as a package.
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Stuart Heinrich commented
Just came here to post the same feature request, I'll add my vote to yours
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J commented
Unsure what point 1 means, but I am here for points 2 and 3.
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Rzzzz commented
Yes. This is what Fastmail excels at. Fastmail is also able automatically set "Send From" address to the alias where it received the email originally without the need for user to change it manually.
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Jack Frost commented
Agreed. Emails received from a simple login forwarding alias should default to the simple login alias in the 'Sent From' field if I reply to the email.
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Alex commented
Maybe I'm misunderstanding the question, but isn't done using a reverse-alias?
Specifically, under "Aliases" in SimpleLogin, find the alias you want to send as then click "Contacts", enter the email you are sending to in the textbox, "Create reverse-alias" then copy that reverse-alias to use as the recipient in Proton Mail.
Agreed it's rather convoluted though (it's simpler if you are replying to an email, as SimpleLogin automatically replaces the actual senders with these reverse-aliases), and it would be great if Proton Mail had more seamless integration with SimpleLogin (e.g. select to send as alias which would then auto-create/substitute the reverse-alias).
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Eric Johnson commented
Strictly speaking, there is a way to do this, but it is a bit of a pain in the neck.
You can reply to an e-mail that came to an alias and it uses that address in the reply.
So send yourself an e-mail to that alias. Then whenever you want to send an e-mail using that aliases as the sender, reply to the mail you sent yourself and change the title and recipients name and get rid of the text in the message you sent yourself.
Try it. Suppose your address is example@proton.me. Send yourself an e-mail to example+3.141592653589793238462643383279502884197169399375105820974944592307816406286208998628034825342117067982148086513282306647093844609550582231725359408128481117450284102701938521105559644622948954930381964428810975665933446128475@proton.me. Then use reply to send a message to a friend.
Note that one downside to using aliases is that the PGP encryption no longer works. Each '+' alias you use would need its own PGP key. If you could identify '+' addresses that you would like to use for encrypted e-mail, it would be nice to be able to select those '+' addresses and create a PGP key for each of them.
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S commented
Simplelogin allows me to have emails sent to an alias email address. There is no way of sending of email from protonmail from that alias address though.