SimpleLogin seamless integration for email alias reverse-alias usage
SimpleLogin works very well with Proton Mail, and it's great that this is now included in certain paid subscriptions, however there are some opportunities for a more seamless integration in the Proton Mail apps (Web and Mobile), in particular:
Receiving emails:
Option to show actual email address as sender instead of reverse-alias under "From" (i.e. use "X-Simplelogin-Envelope-From" email header where enabled instead of "From").Sending emails:
Option to select email alias as sender under "From" (in the same way as "real" addresses/mailboxes) and then use actual email addresses (rather than the reverse-aliases) under "To", and have Proton Mail automatically use (and generate if not yet created) the reverse-alias addresses for each of the recipients.Managing aliases:
Option to create a new alias from Proton Mail (i.e. under "Manage my addresses").
Essentially, the idea would be that when using the Proton Mail apps, one could use an email alias in exactly the same way as a "real" email address/mailbox, and have Proton Mail handle all the reverse-alias generation/substitution transparently to the end-user (at first glance, there would ideally still be some way of indicating that addresses have been substituted, perhaps with an icon next to the address that when clicked will show the reverse-alias that is actually used to send the email).
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Ryan commented
I’m new to both proton and SimpleLogin but using it extensively to have unique aliases for the majority of my logins. The two services still feel disjointed and any effort to better integrate them is appreciated.
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Admin commented
It took me hours of experimentation to figure out how to send emails from a hide-my-address alias. I finally stumbled across the trick. A hide-my-address alias is the only kind of address I would give out. This should work the same as Thunderbird aliases.
Edit: Today I spent several more hours getting hide-my-address aliases to work with my own domain name. Parts of the process are extremely messy, but do work. But there were lots of undocumented steps found by trial and error and figuring out various error messages. Mammoth kludges.
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mih commented
Adding my votes
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protonvoter commented
2. Is essential for intuitive ux ,got really confused replying to mail from alias
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legoatoom commented
This feature would be amazing, hopefully it would also work with the proton bridge.
This would allow me to send emails via Thunderbird as identities(https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/using-identities) directly.
Any forwarded email to a proton inbox would no longer require having the reply-to replaced with a generated alias. Since you would be able to send it (seemingly) directly to them from that alias.
This would also fix calendar invites: https://github.com/simple-login/app/discussions/1741
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Alessandro commented
This is absolutely fundamental!
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voyager2bird commented
If I'm shopping for insurance and need to contact three firms, then I should be able to compose a new email and then:
generate new SL alias (and choose the SL alias mailboxe(s)) the contact should belong to; or, select an existing SL alias the contact should belong to. At which point, the reverse-alias is autogenerated in the Proton email and added to the TO field.
A proton user should not have to use two applications to achieve this workflow with SL now under Proton.
similar idea here; https://protonmail.uservoice.com/forums/284483-proton-mail/suggestions/46160269-send-from-alias-address
Also, not sure if this belongs in Email or Pass, or both: https://protonmail.uservoice.com/forums/284483-proton-mail/suggestions/47763086-sync-labels-between-proton-mail-and-simplelogin
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As https://github.com/ProtonMail/WebClients/issues/316#issuecomment-1928589036 states:
> Regardless of how it appears to the user, I'd integrate with addy.io under the hood rather than SimpleLogin.
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Nathan commented
I understand that aliases are part of the account upsell advantages. I also understand that Proton Mail addresses have security and encryption options not included with Simple Login aliases. However, I think better Simple Login integration for reverse aliases as well as the ability to create addresses in Proton Mail from Simple Login domains should be a feature that could be added while retaining the current account upsell paths.
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Chief commented
Today you can make new addresses in Proton Mail, but they're not setup automatically in SimpleLogin as Mailboxes.
Then even once you add them as Mailboxes in SimpleLogin, they're not available in Proton Pass when creating a new alias in Proton Pass.
These should all be hooked together automatically so I can pick my target address from Proton Mail when I'm creating a new alias in Proton Pass.
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Kelly commented
Agree the integration could be much better and easier to use, but it is technically possible two ways:
Replying to a message sent to the alias will send to the reverse alias so it will send it from the alias even though it doesn't 'look' like it.
Go to simple login and get/create the reverse alias for the address you're sending to.
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Ramiro Ferreira commented
Como enviar e-mail através do protonmail? Não consigo pelo Android
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splinux commented
I completely support this. But I believe this attacks Proton Mail selling point for Proton Unlimited. When you add that feature, having multiple actual emails is basically useless. In fact they are adding so many features that it's becoming difficult to sell higher cost packages. I pay just because, but I could do with a free or basic account to be fair.
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pieter commented
skiff all ready have but i want to see it in proton so i can buy a mail subscription
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Jeremy commented
I agree the aliasing functionality could be much better - especially as it is no longer new. Several providers offer similar features - Fastmail comes closest to what I'd love to see in Proton. I shared some thoughts on why I think there are 3 types of aliases that I would love to see integrated as part of the Proton Mail offering: https://protonmail.uservoice.com/forums/284483-proton-mail/suggestions/47527166-offer-3-distinct-alias-types-seamlessly-within-pro
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Jeremy commented
I have similar thoughts I shared in https://protonmail.uservoice.com/forums/284483-proton-mail/suggestions/47527166-offer-3-distinct-alias-types-seamlessly-from-proto regarding why I think Proton could offer a better aliasing offering all around with 3 distinct types of aliases.
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Chad commented
Technically, with reverse aliases this is done, but in a rather disconnected/dysfunctional way. It needs to be done in the inbox, not an entirely separate service.
It would be nice if simplelogin was integrated into protonmail directly (which protonPass seems like how they are planning to do so).
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Forged commented
I think (repeat think!) this kind of exists - as long as the simple login address has received an email.
When I have just replied to an email sent to one of my simple login addresses/aliases, it said it was about to be sent from my primary proton address, which I was hesitant to do but sent it anyway (it was a company I trusted).
I have just received a reply from the company and the email receipts appear to have maintained the simple login email address.
Admittedly this isn’t the ability to send a brand new email from simple login alias but it seems (unless I’m missing something in the interaction I just had!) that simple login aliases do get maintained once a company has sent an email to the hidden address.
Please correct me if I’m wrong or missed a point there though!
EDIT - apologies, I’m on a rubbish internet connection and the later replies hadn’t loaded - they are much better replies than mine!
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Miles B Huff commented
I will not use an email service that does not allow me to use aliases.
FastMail lets me use an alias.I have an @Linux.com alias that I paid the Linux Foundation for. I shouldn't have to own the entire Linux.com domain for ProtonMail to let me send emails with the alias I bought.
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Anonymous commented
With Simplelogin we can send emails from aliases. But It is so tired to open Simplelogin and create aliases and copy reverse aliases every time I send the mail. So just integrate Simplelogin aliases to Protonmail directly and make options to send via Simplelogin aliases directly in email sending page.
+ The options have to contain either sending from an existing ailases or create a new aliases.