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Darkmail DIME support

While this suggestion would be a long term consideration, it would be exciting if Protonmail development would keep in mind and evaluate the support for Darkmail DIME protocols. Support of DIME would compliment the privacy and security initiative on which Protonmail was founded on and could be a complimentary feature to existing Protonmail functionality and features while provide seamelss user friendly secured mail transmissions with other secure mail protocol users in the future.

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      • Anonymous commented  · 

        Yes, I agree 100%, especially in light of the recent anti-privacy, anti-surveillance, legislation that seems to be making the rounds at the moment.

      • AdminThe ProtonMail Team (Privacy Protector, ProtonMail) commented  · 

        We're watching how DIME evolves, but we still see major usability, anti-spam, and technical problems. There are also bigger security problems we would like to tackle first, such as end-to-end authentication and web of trust.

      • Matthew Wolffsohn commented  · 

        If Protonmail could give support to the DIME standard that would be amazing!

      • amilopowers commented  · 

        This would help to get more compatibility. I see arise a lot of new, incompatible protocols nowadays.

      • buggy commented  · 

        DIME looks promising, especially with those involved.

      • Anonymous commented  · 

        PGP (which I refer to as Email 2.0), is great for sending encrypted messages. One of the popular requests here on Uservoice is for metadata to be encrypted in transit as well. The problem with the PGP protocol though, is that it can't encrypt the subject header, to/from/cc/bcc fields, or other metadata. PGP also can't do forward-secrecy, and if the one of the users private key is compromised, an eavesdropper can read all previous and future correspondence, instead of just future correspondence.

        Enter the Dark Mail Alliance, a group of representatives from email & privacy companies working on creating new, open-source protocols for "Email 3.0", with things like forward secrecy, and where metadata can also be encrypted and kept private from any prying eyes.

        The team currently consists of Ladar Levison, founder of Lavabit, Phil Zimmermann, inventor of PGP, current Chief Scientist of Silent Circle, Jon Callas, former Chief Scientist at PGP Inc, current CTO of Silent circle, Mike Janke, former Navy SEAL Commander, current Chairman & co-founder of Silent Circle, but is looking to expand.

        Being based off of the idea of Lavabit, and having Silent Circle also based out of Switzerland, I think it would be a great idea for Protonmail to join this alliance in creating and implementing this better email protocol as it continues to improve it's service.

      • Anonymous commented  · 

        Are there any plans for this?

      • Maxi commented  · 

        It would be highly appreciated if Protonmail team would leave a point of view on basic security issues, like this.
        In that way users would be able to compile an idea about where the project are heading.

      • protonuser commented  · 

        I noticed that apparently Lavaboom of Germany is already supporting Darkmail DIME protocol. It would be wonderful for Proton Mail to also start supporting DIME at an earlier stage as this would encourage an increase of use of DIME e-mails. Furthermore, the Dark Mail Alliance is already working on their own DIME mail client which is based on a customized version of Mozilla Thunderbird branch, so if Proton supported DIME, then it would greatly enhance the useability of Proton as third party DIME mail clients such as that developed by Dark Mail Alliance could be used with Proton Mail. Win-win for everyone concerned.

      • John commented  · 

        This is essential if the users of different secure email services are ever to communicate with each other on a secure platform.

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