Most us believe in a normal world, not something owned by Google

Very disappointing. Was looking forward to using the proton suite but relying on google services and the half hearted attempt at photo backup is the killer.

Going to use tuta email for now, as it has FOSS apps on fdroid that don't use play services and immich for photo backup.

Will probably leave proton pass too as it seems pointless paying for proton plus when half the services can't be used

Quite bizarre that this is still not yet implemented. Hope to see it soon.

Please implement fido2 api for Security Key auth. Works without play services. It would increase account security greatly; not having to rely on password + TOTP and instead just a security key like yubikey. Thanks

Embarrassing that a "privacy" company is ignoring this 10 year old critical feature request...

Isn't the point of leaving GAFAM... to stop using GAFAM services?

Allow proton apps to check for push notifications themselves (like signal without google play services) if the user doesn't want to use google notifications.

I started deGoogling my life, by moving from Samsung Android to Graphene on a Pixel phone (for better privacy, security, encryption, etc...).
Funny to find out that Proton Mail depends on Google Play Services for email notifications (???), which are not installed by default on Graphene.

This goes against what Proton advocates, deGoogling, no big tech, etc....

Would be very nice, I would say very important for Proton apps to stop depending on Google Play Services.
Many options are out there, for example:
https://unifiedpush.org

For now, I'm using a small app called "You Have Mail" (available on F-droid) to check my email and receive notifications, not the best solution, because I have to give my credentials to a 3rd party, but it works for now.

Thanks,
Carlos

please also migrate from play services fido2 api to Android Credential Manager for Security Key auth. Its the recommended API and also works without play services. https://developer.android.com/identity/sign-in/fido2-migration

Having to depend on Google for notifications, has me question my support of and use of Proton.

They talked like they were a while back. I used to be so dedicated to proton. I truly believed they were the truest ever. But the more I see the more I give up. From there new AI adoption. To know I have pinpointed an proven Cross app trackers inside our suppose to be encrypted proton drive?? Yeah. Bugsnag 3rd party software pinging from inside proton drive... wtf is the point in a encrypted drive? Now googles stopping sideloads on droid 2025 is a bad tech year.

If there is one thing most important for me, its this.

Anyway, your app portfolio is pretty wide now. It could make sense

This is very important to me also. I have been using an Unplugged device for almost 2 years now, and of course there is zero gogle services on them. I do not get notifications for any of my Proton services.

Please implement this. I have Graphene and therefore don't have any idea of any potential emails, but more importantly, potential account takeover as I don't get a notification about a "successful login".

I wish Proton would take this feature request onboard. This is a massive issue for degoogled users...

UnifiedPush seems the standard about the best alternative to Play Services?
I guess this should be key and all the "privacy providers" (proton, tuta, mullvad, signal...) should all agree on implement the same pattern and not doing what the like, otherwise we are lost.
Please Proton try to choose the best pattern on doing this (I vote for UnifiedPush but I may be wrong) and try to establish relationship with other providers to do the same (signal or tuta for example).
The GOS community in which i include myself will appreciate this please

This should be prioritized if we (the community) want to be really fully private and own our lives and lifes.
I am not against censuring the current notification system, but extend it, like for example Signal does by supporting FCM (Google), Websockets and UnifiedPush.

I will share my most honest opinion:
- FCM is efficent and I think proton does not want to quit/remove it because many users still use android stock system. I'm ok with this.
- Websocket is trash (at least used by Signal). When I used websockets with Signal my pixel battery seemed being drained. For me it is a no-go this way.
- UnifiedPush is suprisedly efficient, I am currently using Molly on a GOS pixel and the battery usage of Molly/ntfy is almost none on background.

Please Proton, I'm not against removing FCM, but please think about extend efficient protocol like UnifiedPush on your applications so users like me who are not being notified with new emails or login account attempts can benefit of all your features (since with the current status we only benefit of half/partial features, i am missing critical email notifications constantly...).

Also IMO it would be a "bang one's fist on the table" to all the privacy community (not only Proton) and a smart "reason to join Proton"

I haven’t read all 240 or so comments so I may be missing or repeating something, but the Protonmail app runs beautifully on my /e/OS phone. Has done for years. No Google.

Very sad that this isn't even planned. I am unable to replace TOTP with a security key on my proton account which would enhance my security. I appeal to Proton to implement FIDO functionality without Play services.

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