Just focus on your core values and avoid feature creep
Please focus on security, transparency and sustainability and avoid everything not necessary for email.
I am also in agreement. I understand why people would want a password manager, but surely being able to change which calendar an event is associated with in the iOS app is a higher priority than a whole new site? I don't like the idea of having every facet of my security locked into ProtonMail. If you're going to keep offering new features, please give users the option to opt out and save that money, as I see no reason to leave my current password manager.
Anyways, I do love the product! I just want it to be the best it can be!
It depends on the definition of feature creep!
Basic usability features that are expected (and present in 99% of the competition) in the current services, should be added and developed properly!
Adding many low value services with poor badly implemented feature set should be avoided unless you are google and plan to kill the service within the year.
I am out of votes .. but I fully support the general feeling on this topic - your core product is missing basic features and should be prioritized. Nothing else until its the best.
Yes, recently I have seen suggestions about a Proton browser, password manager, office suite, voice assistant, search engine, etc. We don't need resources wasted on developing these from scratch when there are already good alternatives for most of them as can be seen on https://www.privacyguides.org/. I much rather see Proton focus on their core functionality around the four products you have right now (Mail, Calendar, VPN, and Drive), and refer users to other privacy minded tools for other functionality (and potentially in the future acquire privacy minded companies with compatible solutions but not waste resources rebuilding the same tools from scratch).
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE focus on improving ProtonMail. It's usable, but it's not a recommendable alternative to Gmail yet. I don't really care about all the other stuff you're making if it's only made to be "good enough" so that you can focus on the next new product. I want a good email service that is comparable to Gmail, that I can confidently recommend to others.
PLEASE! Stick to email, contacts, and calendar. I don't want a Proton drive. I don't want anything else. I want a really nice, solid, RECOMMENDABLE email client!!
Patrick Daneels commented
Je n'arrive jamais a me faire un"acount"Je recois toujours une reponse de non conformité;
pourtant avant l'envoie je controle mais donner!!!!
Mais chaque fois je reçois la même reponse. Je ne comprends pas!!!
Quelles sont les critères acceptés,,,,
[Deleted User] commented
Agreed. Before adding new services focus on perfecting the existing ones. For me that means:
1) ProtonMail/Calendar Desktop Apps
2) ProtonMail CardDAV contact syncing on phones
3) ProtonCalendar feature build out including subscribing to other calendars/sharing yours
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Wouldn't it be better to avoid expanding into creating vast mediocre unperfected products? Wouldn't it be better to avoid delaying timelines and perfect what already makes ProtonMail unique and excellent?
People like the idea of one platform to rule them all, but it just isn't realistic. The reason Apple is what it is today, is because they knew how to perfect and focus on a few products. Imagine that level of focus from Protonmail.
One can already find many of the services ProtonMail users are requesting and it would take years for ProtonMail to catch up. Some of these services requested on this site include:
Encrypted Knowledge Cloud Storage: Available with sync.com or pCloud
Zero Tracking Web Browser: Available with Brave, Firefox, or Tor
Password Manager: Available with 1Password or a multitude of others
Where do you find a good encrypted calendar? Where do you find reliable encrypted email? Where do you find encrypted contacts? The answer is ProtonMail. These 3 services fit nicely together, are unique, and reinforce the utility of one another.
I hope ProtonMail will make their core gorgeous, and pour their resources and time into them, before moving on. I hope they avoid the customer sirens requesting they do "everything" in the realm of security. People flock to companies that do a few things truly great, not to ones that do a lot of things mediocre.
If you agree, I found a nice feature request to "focus on your core", where your votes would be great. Also, feel free to repost this anywhere people are getting carried away requesting features, or send it to management if anyone knows how. We can help this great company focus on being great instead of getting carried away.
I agree with this, except I would like to see things like an integrated password manager so I don't have to pay for additional services like 1Password. I view password management an important piece of online security so this sort of product would work well with ProtonMail's vision.
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I threw a bunch of votes at this, but I would also like to see some other FOSS privacy instances hosted under a Proton single-sign-on. A Bitwarden instance would be great, as would a CryptPad (or similar) instance, for example.
Could not agree more!
Agree, we don't need another Gmail/Microsoft etc ...
YES- Protonmail is still not a mature product - anyone using it for their daily work can spot many issues compared to the large email providers. Fix them first, get more users, and then worry about a Protonmail browser (huh?!) and the other ideas.
D E commented
I am out of votes (having used them on core *mail* features, such as nested folders), but I fully support the general feeling on this topic - your core product is missing basic features and should be prioritized above any additional bells and whistles.
If the team is growing to do both, great, that's fine. But it would be deeply frustrating to learn ProtonMail resources are being used on ProtonBrowser (Firefox works just fine, thanks) or ProtonDrive (I self-host my own cloud storage, thanks) or ProtonKeePass (I have...KeePass) when I can't use the basic folder structure that's been available since the 90's or easily add new addresses to existing filters or even run filters on demand.
I use Outlook for work, and while much of that application is useless bloat, there are some much simpler features the lack thereof I always find painful when switching back to my personal e-mail account.
I wholeheartedly support this!
NO “browser”, NO “password keeper”, NO WHINING!
ProtonMail are our Freedom Fighters, not out freakin Comfort Cloud!
I support this, 3 votes from a paying Proton user, only to the extent that “feature creep” doesn’t apply to actual, needed/required features to maintain the security & usability of the current services (Mail + VPN). The services will need to evolve, of course. The statement is painting with a very broad brush. In my opinion, focusing on the current services offered or already in the pipeline is much better than trying to create a browser, password manager, etc. where a plethora of good, secure options already exist. No one knows how best to utilize your resources than you. I believe the fundamental request here is that you don’t venture off on too many tangents from your core services and services which may enhance them (again, where an appropriate alternative is not available).
This depends on what you mean by 'feature creep'. I consider calendaring, tasks and contacts essential. This is because, by design, e-mail is a collaborative service. Therefore, sharing events, tasks etc, are essential to making that process seamless. These features should be easier to handle than email itself. However, if we consider something like notes, cloud, password managers etc, the focus moves away from the original goal (feature creep). However, PM could certainly work with other open source projects to create simple integrations, e.g. a sync service for keepass. This way, the open source community can build as a unit. Right now, the limited efforts are being fragmented between multiple projects that often create redundant features.